Howe: Memories From Penn State Abuse Case Remain Strong
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ClintonIAfan
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They just got a "slap on the wrist" they were never properly punished, the program was never cleaned out. Joe Pedo's son is still on the board of trustees. The conditions that allowed the abuse to take place are still in place. It can happen there again because of how lightly the NCAA treated this. They should not even have a football program at this time. Anyone who still supports that program condones pedophilia.
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Denverhawk1
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I gotta agree with you Rob. It’s bullshit that Penn State didn’t get the hammer, and you’ve enunciated several reasons why.
HuckFinn
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Well done, Mr. Howe. Well done.
Fantastic article and I wish more people had the guts to still write about what went on there. Too many people want to again keep quiet and move on. I’m glad someone was willing to do what was right.
Rob eluded to this in his article but how many former coaches, school staff, players, cops, DAs, etc heard these rumors and turned a blind eye? It goes beyond the program and the school.
The football program didn’t even get a slap on the wrist. More like a gentle tap with an “it’s going to be okay”
Rob eluded to this in his article but how many former coaches, school staff, players, cops, DAs, etc heard these rumors and turned a blind eye? It goes beyond the program and the school.
The football program didn’t even get a slap on the wrist. More like a gentle tap with an “it’s going to be okay”
ssckelley
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Damn Rob the pic you chose for your article damn near made me puke.
It sickens me that Pedo State was able to get right back to it's football glory. The college, their fans, the students, none of them deserve a football program. I agree that they should have gotten the death penalty.
It sickens me that Pedo State was able to get right back to it's football glory. The college, their fans, the students, none of them deserve a football program. I agree that they should have gotten the death penalty.
Fryowa
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I went there 2 years ago when we got killed.
The number of brainwashed zombies in that state who still worship Paterno is mind-blowing.
That fan base has truly put their “idyllic” program ahead of all logic, reason, and morals. Which in my mind makes them complicit in some form at worst, and ignorant at best.
The number of brainwashed zombies in that state who still worship Paterno is mind-blowing.
That fan base has truly put their “idyllic” program ahead of all logic, reason, and morals. Which in my mind makes them complicit in some form at worst, and ignorant at best.
MoseSchrute
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A "lesser" school would have been destroyed by the NCAA. The hypocrisy never stops.
Denverhawk1
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If I do disagree, I will. But I just happen to share the same opinion as you. People who abuse kids, rape people and abuse animals all have a special place in hell as far as I’m concerned.
SmokeTownHawk
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Beaver Stadium should've been made into a cow pasture after the Sandusky/Paterno episode. Textbook example of loss of institutional control, which used to be the standard for the death penalty.
oregonhawkeye
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I just reread your note from 2011 Rob. It's brave and commendable. You should be proud of saying these things- you are helping people. Thank you.
Northside Hawk
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By the time that happens a dozen new scandals will have broken out. They're happening right now. All it takes is the slightest misstep or some victim with the courage to come forward and their cover is blown.
My son tried out for a Greg Stephen coached Barnstormer team in March, 2017. I met and briefly talked to the guy. I had no idea and had no reason to suspect any foul play just from my brief association with him. Thank God they caught that guy when they did. Who knows where that may have ended up if he kept coaching.
Excellent article and spot on Rob. Kudos to you for not letting people forget. Sweeping these crimes under the rug ... and/or ignoring the problem is the reason why it went on so long and why it still happens today. I used to belong to a certain church (which we read about every day now) whose leaders continue to do both. For years they have simply moved problem individuals from church to church, never addressing the issue. I happen to know 2 individuals who were molested years ago by those they trusted. They both claim that was bad enough but what is worse to them is others knew about it but it continued to go on for years.
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SteveGarvey1
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Not sure I totally agree. The death penalty would have been OK immediately after the offense was exposed but, on the other hand, to continue to call them "Pedo State", when all the people who had anything to do with it are gone, seems extreme. I guess it's nuanced and tough to try and parse that out.
But people in our culture today are tainted with guilt if they merely share the same demographic characteristic or have even the loosest association with a guilty party.
I do get that many of us put our sports teams ahead of decency. I do agree with that.
ssckelley
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What took place there was extreme, children were forced to have sex with a coach, it was covered up, and people looked the other way! If this had happened at Iowa I would be embarrassed to call myself a fan and I would burn every Hawkeye thing I owned. The Pierre Pierce incident damn near did me in and that was no where near the level of Pedo State. They got a slap on the wrist, they shall forever be Pedo State to me.
That's just it... PSU is pretty much a blue blood football program. They are a cash cow, probably top 10 or higher in that regard. No way were they going to shut that money making valve off. That's all that is. There's no treating schools the same. If your a top 20ish program financially I bet there's just about nothing you can do to get the death penalty and this whole Sandusky thing is all you need for proof of that.. I mean if not that what?
I'm glad a guy like Rob would write an article like this. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he gets some blow back from it from those folks out there. And if/when he does all that'll do is further solidify his point on it all. As time goes on the way that all will be looked back on will either be sugar coated or mostly ignored. Most of the important details of it will be conveniently left out I bet. I hope I'm wrong but we'll see. There's nothing inaccurate with what Rob wrote. Opinions are just that we all have them.
