OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Don't worry dean will understand this stuff in a couple of years.
How did CJ let this happen?
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OUTofTOWNHAWK
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OK let figure out who has no clue around here.
Who thinks it was kirk's idea to release a January depth chart and hold a press conference?
Who thinks it was kirk's idea to release a January depth chart and hold a press conference?
Knight78
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This may be as much to do with 2 new linemen and a new running back allowing blitzers and CJ taking hits as anything else.
Knight78
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I would say it's as much a lack of trust in the field goal kicker as anything. He didn't start the year going for it on 4th and short. It took several missed FG early in the season at what should be considered point blank range for a college kicker before he started to go for it on 4th and short.
deanvogs
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I understand that KF is stubborn to a fault and would never be bullied or pressured into who his starting QB was, or who is OC and coaching staffs will be. But lets indulge your fantasy, and say KF is worried about ticket sales, and he was pressured/bullied into giving CJ the job. If he did this for those reason's, then he would never, ever then turn around and promote Brian to OC like that, not if his motivation is as you say it is. The person or thing, or boggieman, or whatever it is that you claim pressured KF into putting out a two deep, calling a press conference, and putting CJ at the top of the depth chart, would never let Brain be name OC run coordinator. So for one to be true, then the other can't have happened, therefor showing you don't understand "stuff".
vogs - I agree with 99.9% of what you just said....however, Barta obviously also knew that fans would be expecting some kind of change/shifts within the assistants.....but he was too ****ing stupid to set ground rules on what those shifts were to be....thus KF moved BF one step further up the chain of command. Just watching the depth chart presser, one could tell with 100% certainty that it was the LAST thing KF wanted to be doing. Barta is in FULL BLOWN panic mode!!!
Shout out to GOD.....PLEASE for the long term success of the football program, do not let Iowa win 2-3 coin flip games against slugs because the other team decided to "Out dumb" our coaching staff. This MUST be the last season of the KF era at Iowa....plain and simple.
Shout out to GOD.....PLEASE for the long term success of the football program, do not let Iowa win 2-3 coin flip games against slugs because the other team decided to "Out dumb" our coaching staff. This MUST be the last season of the KF era at Iowa....plain and simple.
deanvogs
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Barta could have stopped the move if he wanted. He is Brian's and the Assistant coaches boss, (KF doesn't pay them, the university does). With this move, I just don't see how any kind of "pressure" is being exerted on KF, because if he wanted he could have ****ed with KF's staff, especially Brian.
I hope nobody thinks I am saying these move are good moves or anything else. I want KF gone as much as everyone else. I just don't see how anyone can look at these things, and think that KF is making decisions based on someone (especially Barta) "pressuring" him, as everything that is playing out is 100% proof otherwise.
deanvogs
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At the end of the day we are both guessing on these things, nobody on here really knows for sure. I personally now think this was all KF idea (depth chart, presser). If any pressure is coming it is from his staff (not Barta), in trying to get up to date with the times. IE get out in press conferences, attack these issues by getting out in front of them. Yet KF is who he is, and he is never gonna look comfortable doing these things, it is a generational thing. I mean I could see Brian doing the exact same thing, and looking at ease and comfortable, and KF will just never have that.
OP is spot on here. KF will find a way to demote or devalue cj's work leaving him on the bench purely out of spite. Kf lapdogs will start pointing out some phantom reason why this was done clueless to the reality of the situation staying that st.kirk is incapable of such actions while it continues to play out right in front of them yet grossly overlooked. Nothin changes, hawks suck again, rinse and repeat.
HawkPrdatr40
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IMO clear pressure was put on KF before the bowl game. It was especially obvious with how the QB battle played out during the Bowl game and even after. If it was business as usual JR starts that Bowl Game and clearly that wasn't the case. KF didn't and hasn't look comfortable since bout a week before the Bowl Game. Just way to many out of character KF things have happened to close this season.
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-------If any pressure is coming it is from his staff (not Barta), in trying to get up to date with the times.
No way! His staff reminds me of 99% of the Iowa Sports Writers....no ambition to go anywhere else better....just happy as a pig in mud to not make waves whilst drawing a check.
No way! His staff reminds me of 99% of the Iowa Sports Writers....no ambition to go anywhere else better....just happy as a pig in mud to not make waves whilst drawing a check.
Wow, Playmaker, you really call people out. Administration, coaches, media, fans. Are you the subject of this story?
http://www.theonion.com/articles/defense-needs-to-be-more-physical-reports-man-slum,34922/
lightning1
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Does a Fat Cat wallow in the mud like a pig? I think so.
hawkeyebob62
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I gotta ask (I guess): if KF was/is so "anti-CJB", why did he "allow" him to sign his LOI? Or do you believe he was "overruled"?
Let's just say some posters are maybe half correct that KF doesnt like what he sees in practice sometimes CJB.
Now how Bob62 can you take that back 3 years to before CJ signed his LOI, How would KF know if he might not like CJ's swashbuckling, devil may care attitude for throwing 50 yard laser strikes to receivers just past defenders earholes.
I got to say that CJ's last two TD throws against Tennessee were great and a little of what I was expecting Jake R to do this last season. CJ just drilled that pass to Hamilton past double coverage. Great throw with about a window 5% bigger than the football.
If Jake would have made 25% improvement going into this year the hawks would have won 9-10 games and all would be fine in Kinnick-ville.
dualradius
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While I don't like to criticize staff harshly, I'm starting to believe this is correct. He's got Yes-men around him - and they are content sitting with him in IC doing meetings and water cooler stuff. Maybe they can watch more video!
I wasn't convinced KF needed to go until this last year - when it became apparent that Iowa is falling even further in the recruiting game. We need energy in this program - and it's not there with KF and won't be.
OUTofTOWNHAWK
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Or Djk right.
hawkeyebob62
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I'm not arguing the merits of CJ. I AM arguing the "KF hasn't liked him and has intentionally kept him on the bench all this time". If he didn't want him here, he wouldn't have offered him.
I have no idea what the coaches see in practice, or what other dynamic(s) might be in play. But making CJ #1 on latest depth chart STILL hasn't made some people happy. They question the motivation behind it, or say KF was pressured, etc.
If CJ keeps the job and JR stays, we're ahead of the game..at least until the opening game of the season.
I have doubts about next season no matter who starts or plays majority of snaps at QB, anyway. I just don't see much after losing Scherff, Davis and LTP. The new starters may get better, but where else are we "better"? No Weisman means more home-run potential at RB each play, but with the OL that's coming back, we may not see many, if any, home runs.
