Hodge Trophy
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I would have said David Taylor if he had won the national championship but he got stuck in the finals and also I don't know if they would've given it to a freshman.
Burroughs would get my vote. He was so dominant all season and unlike Taylor, closed out the year in style in the finals. That said, I'm guessing it will be Robles because he also had a dominant season and is the hot story in wrestling right now
Burroughs would get my vote. He was so dominant all season and unlike Taylor, closed out the year in style in the finals. That said, I'm guessing it will be Robles because he also had a dominant season and is the hot story in wrestling right now
BLKNGOLD48
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Robles will win it.
He looked dominant most of the year. Winning by escape without scoring a single TD in the Big 12 championships over Caldwell was not dominating. That being said I think he should still win it.
I also like Reader simply based on the tremendous improvement he made to be where he was at the end of this season. I don't think that many people would have predicted 39-0 for him while moving up a weight class.
pin2win
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great breakdown here i found
Hodge Cirteria
1. Record
2. Number of pins
3. Dominance
4. Past credentials
5. Quality of competition
6. Sportsmanship/citizenship
7. Heart
#1 Burroughs 36-0, Robles 36-0, Oliver 29-0 Advantage Burroughs/Robles
#2 Burroughs-6,Oliver-9, Robles 2 (Naia opponents) Advatage Oliver
#3 Burroughs 33 Bonus 3 dec (vs #2 returning Champ & #3) All 5 bonus NCAA matches
Oliver 22 Bonus 2 dec (vs #2 & #10) 3 bonus NCAA Matches
Robles 29 Bonus 2 dec (vs non top 10) 2 bonus NCAA matches
Advantage Burroughs
#4 Burroughs 3rd, 1st Undefeated ,1st Undefeated NCAA
Robles 4th, 7th, 1st Undefeated NCAA
Oliver 4th, 1st
Advantage (Huge) Burroughs
#5 Burroughs Big 12, beat #2, #3 (3x), 6, 8, 9, 10, Midlands Champ
Robles Pac 10, beat # 9 (3x), 8, 2 Cliff Keen Champ
Oliver Big 12, beat # 9, 2 (2x), 4
Advantage Burroughs
#6,#7 tie as all three are good guys on and off the mat
Results
Burroughs 6 of 7
Robles 4 0f 7
Oliver 4 of 7
Hodge Cirteria
1. Record
2. Number of pins
3. Dominance
4. Past credentials
5. Quality of competition
6. Sportsmanship/citizenship
7. Heart
#1 Burroughs 36-0, Robles 36-0, Oliver 29-0 Advantage Burroughs/Robles
#2 Burroughs-6,Oliver-9, Robles 2 (Naia opponents) Advatage Oliver
#3 Burroughs 33 Bonus 3 dec (vs #2 returning Champ & #3) All 5 bonus NCAA matches
Oliver 22 Bonus 2 dec (vs #2 & #10) 3 bonus NCAA Matches
Robles 29 Bonus 2 dec (vs non top 10) 2 bonus NCAA matches
Advantage Burroughs
#4 Burroughs 3rd, 1st Undefeated ,1st Undefeated NCAA
Robles 4th, 7th, 1st Undefeated NCAA
Oliver 4th, 1st
Advantage (Huge) Burroughs
#5 Burroughs Big 12, beat #2, #3 (3x), 6, 8, 9, 10, Midlands Champ
Robles Pac 10, beat # 9 (3x), 8, 2 Cliff Keen Champ
Oliver Big 12, beat # 9, 2 (2x), 4
Advantage Burroughs
#6,#7 tie as all three are good guys on and off the mat
Results
Burroughs 6 of 7
Robles 4 0f 7
Oliver 4 of 7
Pin...good find on the breakdown. Numbers don't lie...Jordan Burroughs is the man but it will be interesting to see if they give it to Robles or have the, share it.
Interesting note about Burroughs...the only two guys to beat him on the winners side of the bracket at nationals were Metcalf and Dustin Schlatter. Not too shabby
Interesting note about Burroughs...the only two guys to beat him on the winners side of the bracket at nationals were Metcalf and Dustin Schlatter. Not too shabby
I wish quality of competition was higher, right behind record. Based on the quality he went thru, I would like to see Russell get strong consideration for it. He was in perhaps the deepest weight class, beat every top contender, and never lost.
Burroughs, Oliver, and Robles are all deserving of it as well as they had way more dominating wins, but IMO 133 and 157 weren't nearly as deep, and Robles didn't face a top contender until the finals. Had he wrestled Precin, he may have lost, as Precin wrestled him before and had beaten him. Same with McDonough, had he wrestled Robles before the finals, he would have a better chance of figuring him out.
My vote goes to Russell.
Burroughs, Oliver, and Robles are all deserving of it as well as they had way more dominating wins, but IMO 133 and 157 weren't nearly as deep, and Robles didn't face a top contender until the finals. Had he wrestled Precin, he may have lost, as Precin wrestled him before and had beaten him. Same with McDonough, had he wrestled Robles before the finals, he would have a better chance of figuring him out.
My vote goes to Russell.
Burroughs hands down, this kid is amazing to watch on the mat. He will hit you with a blast double from half way across the arena.
Russell does have a case, being in the toughest weight but Burroughs dominates in a class where not alot of points are scored. 165 is usually 1-1 going into OT, 3-2 final, 2-2 winner by riding time those types of matches.
Not that this matters either but Burroughs being a 2 Champ and Senior will probably seal the deal.
I also would like to think they look at what type of style you wrestle, Robles uses the same tilts in every match to score his techs and pins. Where a guy like Burroughs has used a wide varity of skills and technique to dismantle his opponents.
Just my 2 cents
Russell does have a case, being in the toughest weight but Burroughs dominates in a class where not alot of points are scored. 165 is usually 1-1 going into OT, 3-2 final, 2-2 winner by riding time those types of matches.
Not that this matters either but Burroughs being a 2 Champ and Senior will probably seal the deal.
I also would like to think they look at what type of style you wrestle, Robles uses the same tilts in every match to score his techs and pins. Where a guy like Burroughs has used a wide varity of skills and technique to dismantle his opponents.
Just my 2 cents
