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HawkleberryFinn
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I see our "specialist" didn't make the list. Just imagine if he were a TE...we might have two finalists.
lightning1
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Could mean they both gone.
kameltoez102
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The voters got it right. Hockenson is the more complete tight end. I have not seen the other guys on the list play so I can't say if Fant is better than them or not. Regardless I find it hard to believe that the award organizes would have two finalists from the same school
judzeehawk
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Congrats TJ well deserved. Now he better get that trophy!
smitharooney
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Hockenson will not leave after only getting two seasons of game action
Northside Hawk
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Sweeney, from Boston College, is also a finalist.
He had a nice game against us in the Pinstripe Bowl. Had that long TD catch and run.
He had a nice game against us in the Pinstripe Bowl. Had that long TD catch and run.
Fryowa
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I 100% believe Fant has been misused this year, so don’t take this as me defending Ferentz or anything like that, but...
TJ has 160 more yards from scrimmage, 3.2 more yards avg, fewer drops, and the same number of touchdowns as Fant, but (believe it or not), only two more plays from scrimmage than Fant (40 for Hockenson vs 42 for Fant). Regardless of it being Ferentz’s fault or not, TJ has by far and away the better numbers on paper, and he also makes a lot more “splashy” plays that get in highlight films when he hurdles DBs and makes one handed grabs.
Again, it’s not Noah’s fault he’s been underused, but TJ is head and shoulders better this year stats wise.
tweeterhawk
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Rated this high he’d be foolish to stay another year and risk injury. Go make the big bucks when you can.
I think we have two excellent TE's.
I think Fant isn't on the list because A everyone already knows his name and he is already going to get drafted. These things are like news stories, they are trying to be the first with the scoop.
B because as Fryowa pointed out, TJ has excellent numbers.
I also agree with Hawk1960 that Fant absolutely should be motivated for this coming game as well as a bowl game. Last couple chances to put an exclamation mark on his career and behind the $ amount.
I also agree that getting two from the same school on the list is probably never going to happen, regardless of stats and numbers.
I think Fant isn't on the list because A everyone already knows his name and he is already going to get drafted. These things are like news stories, they are trying to be the first with the scoop.
B because as Fryowa pointed out, TJ has excellent numbers.
I also agree with Hawk1960 that Fant absolutely should be motivated for this coming game as well as a bowl game. Last couple chances to put an exclamation mark on his career and behind the $ amount.
I also agree that getting two from the same school on the list is probably never going to happen, regardless of stats and numbers.
earlkoppelman
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OY! Tj gets 'open' and seems always to have room to run. 2 real talents.
HawkleberryFinn
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Ferentz's decision not to play Fant is absolutely unacceptable. The press needs to keep this story alive.
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DDThompson
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If Fant had Hockenson’s numbers then both could be on the final list. It wouldn’t matter if they were from the same school. In fact, that award/organization would get all kinds of free press.
But Fant doesn’t have Hockenson’s numbers.
Primarily — I heard 169 fewer snaps. About 15 fewer per game.
If true, that is mind-numbingly malfeasance by the TE coach—OC—HC or a combo of those. and Chris Fant should get plenty of *like*.
Wait, isn’t the OC/TE already a combo?
But Fant doesn’t have Hockenson’s numbers.
Primarily — I heard 169 fewer snaps. About 15 fewer per game.
If true, that is mind-numbingly malfeasance by the TE coach—OC—HC or a combo of those. and Chris Fant should get plenty of *like*.
Wait, isn’t the OC/TE already a combo?
smitharooney
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He will be back . It’s unwise and rare to leave after your sophomore year .
