Herby says the upcoming season is in big time doubt
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Northside Hawk
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A little too premature for that, but the quality of the product could suffer with no spiring practice, no access to team facilities, and any off-season workouts through University facilities brought to a screeching halt.
Tough break for a team like Iowa that is trying to replace a three year starter at QB who took virtually every meaningful snap last year. This is a critical time to build chemistey between receivers and a new QB and it is being taken away.
You know how I feel about people who think we will be in social isolation for 12-18 months. I'm not going to rehash it here, it's in other threads.
Tough break for a team like Iowa that is trying to replace a three year starter at QB who took virtually every meaningful snap last year. This is a critical time to build chemistey between receivers and a new QB and it is being taken away.
You know how I feel about people who think we will be in social isolation for 12-18 months. I'm not going to rehash it here, it's in other threads.
eyekwah
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It is 5 months to September 1. I've seen some speculation that preseason practice will be extended and only conference games would be played. Fall Practice would start 8/1/2020 and conference games begin late in September. At some point there is a law of diminishing returns related to stay in place, etc. People my age (72) need to know that attending a football game is not the intelligent thing to do. For those healthy and under 60 the chances of catching the virus will drop and if caught the survival chance is great. We got to wade through the hysteria period before people realize life has to go on.
homes
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Operative word - speculation. No one really knows. 5 months is a lot of time. We could well see the summer having an impact on the spread, new protocols, new tests, new treatments, and new methods for tracking the virus by then, which could render it no more dangerous than going to a game and catching the flu. The information and learning doesn't stop as of this date, it continues at a remarkable pace. If Herbstreit said - We'll have to wait and see if college football will be played in the fall, no one can predict that at this point - no one would print that. It's better (for him) to be "shocked". Media people (Rob, not you, you seem out of the mainstream, you know, sensible) simply can't help themselves.
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hawkinarkansas
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And another idea of playing the season in the warmer months here
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/college-football-eyes-possible-summer-233029640.html
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/college-football-eyes-possible-summer-233029640.html
ModebaSan
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Kirk Herbstreit’s opinion means very little to me. I don’t care for his opinions during football season, so why would they mean anything to me in the off season. He’s just wanting to be the guy that predicted football won’t happen so he can say he predicted it first. Just another Debbie Downer.
My wife, a retired family practice physician, and myself have talked about the conundrum that people are in as to whether they should catch the virus or not. The numbers on the Johns Hopkins site show 682K known infections worldwide with 32K deaths or a death rate of 4.6% which is really bad. But many experts say with testing being done at a poor rate there are probably 5 to 10 times the real number of infections which would drop the death rate to .5 to 1%.
So the conundrum is should people who think they are really healthy go out in public and try to get infected and get it over with. That seems to be what happened at Mardi Gras, Spring Break partying, and other big get togethers. My wife has respiratory problems and I am near 70 so I do not think we should do this. Ourselves, we will wait and hope to see if an antigen test will tell us and many others if they already have had it. And then there is waiting for a vaccine sooner or later.
Dr Fauci reasonably believes that once you have it you will have a high probability of having at least some immunity level at least for a few years.
I am not recommending this but as a choice if you live in an area where the healthcare system is not swamped, and you could get on a ventilator, and if you are very healthy so you dont think you will get very sick will some people just congregate, volunteer in hospitals etc and not worry if they get the virus.
It'll be interesting to see how the next few months go. Things are literally going a day at a time pretty much. I hope this crap gets taken care of by July or so. If that happens we'll have football. But who knows. As bad as it's gotten it could get worse... I mean big time worse. So much depends on us though. Too many folks didn't take it serious and the last 2 weeks just kept traveling around and passing it around. If we all would have started bunkering down about a month ago and just stayed bunkered in for 3-4 wks I would bet we'd have it half licked. But people are idiots. Just Fn idiots
As far as Herbstreit and the upcoming football season I agree with most people that there are way too many unknowns at this point. Viruses get inactivated by the heavier amount of UV light in summer but tend to make comebacks in autumn which could be a problem for football and large crowds.
Most people will probably get the virus if it takes 18 months to get a vaccine and they are allowed or choose to mingle. But if it is found out that those who have had the virus cannot give it to others and if we can test millions of people do we get to the point of stamping a "C" on peoples arms or giving them a piece of paper saying they have had it and letting them go to football games? It may come to that or some type of situation where those who have had it can go and those who seem healthy.
If you are old enough then you got scratched on your upper arm with a sharp device that put cow pox virus in your system to vaccinate you against small pox. Smallpox has been eradicated, at least for now, so if you were born sometime after the mid 1970's there is a good chance you did not get a smallpox vaccination with its reddish raised bump on your arm. Neighborhoods used to have Chicken pox parties so that all the kids could get it at the same time and get it over with so it is not unprecedented to seek out catching a virus.
Most people will probably get the virus if it takes 18 months to get a vaccine and they are allowed or choose to mingle. But if it is found out that those who have had the virus cannot give it to others and if we can test millions of people do we get to the point of stamping a "C" on peoples arms or giving them a piece of paper saying they have had it and letting them go to football games? It may come to that or some type of situation where those who have had it can go and those who seem healthy.
If you are old enough then you got scratched on your upper arm with a sharp device that put cow pox virus in your system to vaccinate you against small pox. Smallpox has been eradicated, at least for now, so if you were born sometime after the mid 1970's there is a good chance you did not get a smallpox vaccination with its reddish raised bump on your arm. Neighborhoods used to have Chicken pox parties so that all the kids could get it at the same time and get it over with so it is not unprecedented to seek out catching a virus.
dahlhawk
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Americans won't stay cooped up in their homes in the warmer months, I work at a retail outlet and I swear 90 percent of the people shopping for unnecessary items were in the "at risk" age group. It seems many older baby boomers just got to get their shop on. Also saw many of those who are forced off their jobs bringing their entire family to the store like they were on holiday. Having to work through this pandemic, it really starts to make you angry at so many people that think self-quarantining is for the "other guy". I think people will eventually by mid-summer have moved back to their normal way of life with those at high risk still needing to be cautious. If our medical infrastructure is still overwhelmed this might change. Students will be going back to school in the fall or many of the universities will be shuttering the windows and doors.
You're right. Nope they won't stay cooped up. They were reluctant to cancel 'spring break' plans. Lots of folks had cruises and vacations all lined up in March and folks traveling around all over is what spread this so fast. This is something we could have contained so much faster if we had half a brain and just did what needed to be done. Folks want to blame the government and sure they should share some blame. But we the people have to not be complete idiots too. Government is reactionary not preventative. They didn't start doing anything drastic till it became clear the economy itself was going to be effected. By that time it was too late it was already all over the place. Pretty predictable unfortunately.
I've been surprised that so many D-1 coaches are saying they wouldn't be ready to play Sept. 1 even if they could start practicing July 1. I know coaches are creatures of habit, but man, seriously? Are guys gonna report back in that bad of shape that 2 months of 6 days/week workouts wouldn't have them safely ready to play ball in 2 months?
My son is a medical resident on the front lines of this in CO, and my wife continues to work at a Women's Health Clinic, so this is personal to me...more adults at home means more sex, more STDs (Black Hawk County already leads the state in that department per capita), and a continuing need for birth control, so she needs to continue to work. I've been fighting a nasty sore throat and achey bod the past few days but am relieved whatever I've got is not progressing beyond that! Very disappointed Gov. Reynolds is resisting a 'shelter in place' order...we've still got sporting good stores, carpet stores, etc open around here.
My son is a medical resident on the front lines of this in CO, and my wife continues to work at a Women's Health Clinic, so this is personal to me...more adults at home means more sex, more STDs (Black Hawk County already leads the state in that department per capita), and a continuing need for birth control, so she needs to continue to work. I've been fighting a nasty sore throat and achey bod the past few days but am relieved whatever I've got is not progressing beyond that! Very disappointed Gov. Reynolds is resisting a 'shelter in place' order...we've still got sporting good stores, carpet stores, etc open around here.
Northside Hawk
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Go back to the second post of this thread (mine)
Even if we have college football, and we will, the quality of the game may be down a notch and like you said, safety may beat concern if people aren't in the proper physical condition to play football.
MoseSchrute
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Couldn't agree more. Add to that, they are also selfish. Not everybody, but it only takes a few to ruin it for everyone else.
We will have to see by late July if they are sure people who already have had it cant infect others or get it again. And if there is still a lot of spread in the summer then the UV light that shuts down the virus cant do that in humans so it will still spread.
Right now they say about 140,000 americans have it and if the estimates are right as to spread that means really 1-2 million americans have colonized the virus but hardly knew it.
With 330 million people in the US and only maybe 1 million having it how there could still be a lot of people to get it in July and August.
Right now they say about 140,000 americans have it and if the estimates are right as to spread that means really 1-2 million americans have colonized the virus but hardly knew it.
With 330 million people in the US and only maybe 1 million having it how there could still be a lot of people to get it in July and August.
I doubt warm weather is going to stop this thing. Look at where it is firing up, all over the globe, and there have been stories this thing survives such warm and humid conditions. Polio was a virus that thrived in the summer and they would put out warnings related to it before the days of a vaccine for it. So one of two things, most everyone gets it now which probably means higher death toll but then most immune or some of the anti-viral treatments work and reduces death rate to an "acceptable" level. Yes, I know individually there is no acceptable level of death, but we know society accepts certain levels overall and takes various risks knowing those. Barring one of those two, there will not be a fall season. The vaccine will be ready by early 2021 at best. And yes, they can not want 70,000 people getting together in the fall but yet have life mostly go on with smart rules and testing in place.
And how will that get stopped? Some people are just plain stupid and selfish. I have seen this also. Hey kids its family day at Wal Mart and let's bring grandma too!
