Hawks Hold Off Cyclones

linus19 said:
Make no mistake about it, Iowa is going to dominate the Clowns for years to come. The Iowa team that put ISU away was a young team. You and the rest of ClownNation will have to get used to seeing these same guys for a while. Enjoy!
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In a sport where 1 superstar player can have a dramatic impact on a team's success, it's crazy to say that 1 team or the other is going to dominate.
 
Just ordered my new license plates!

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JonDMiller said:
Woodbury: He needs to get stronger obviously, but I did not expect the kind of offensive arsenal he has. That half hook is pretty deadly and something that will make him a lot of cash. It would appear that facing triangle and two or triples teams in high school had an effect. The kid is going to get sooooo much better, and he is already showing a post game that is as good as Iowa has had from a center since perhaps Acie Earl.
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Remind me when we last had a seven foot true freshman who showed Woodbury's skills (not just flashes)?

Maybe Michael Payne in 1981-2.
 
clonedude said:
Wow.... when ISU won one football game against Iowa in 4 meetings it was called an anamoly and it only happened because that was the only game we got up for all year long.

So Iowa wins one game in the last 4 meetings in basketball and all of the sudden they are dominant now, huh? Interesting how that works.

I just hope the Iowa fans support this team when the B1G teams are laying them to waste this year. I hope Carver doesn't become a morgue again and you have to resort to handing out free pizza, free ice cream, and stuffed animals to your students to get them to show up? This team deserves better than that.
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Funny. Clone fan saying they hope Iowa fans support this team when they are playing the best of the best in the country. What's that say about ISU when you just lost by 9 to a team that will get laid waste to by teams in the best conference in the country?


As for your football anamoly, this isn't even close. Iowa shot like garbage from three and still rolled the kids fom Ames by nine. No matter how good or bad Iowa football plays when ISU wins, it is always by a point or three. When Iowa is decent in football, ISU loses by 14 or more. Iowa football was terrible this year and ISU won by three. Congratulations on your great win. The Big 12 is by far the most overrated conference in the country in football this year.

Iowa football will be back soon and it appears Fran will get things rolling soon. Enjoy your day in the sun because it always ends very quickly when you are a Clonestar.


Sorry to bash you but we deserve better than your knowledge.
 
clonedude said:
Wow.... when ISU won one football game against Iowa in 4 meetings it was called an anamoly and it only happened because that was the only game we got up for all year long.

So Iowa wins one game in the last 4 meetings in basketball and all of the sudden they are dominant now, huh? Interesting how that works.

I just hope the Iowa fans support this team when the B1G teams are laying them to waste this year. I hope Carver doesn't become a morgue again and you have to resort to handing out free pizza, free ice cream, and stuffed animals to your students to get them to show up? This team deserves better than that.
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LOL hey CLOWN GTFO!!!
 
JonDMiller said:
A few more thoughts...

Woodbury: He needs to get stronger obviously, but I did not expect the kind of offensive arsenal he has. That half hook is pretty deadly and something that will make him a lot of cash. It would appear that facing triangle and two or triples teams in high school had an effect. The kid is going to get sooooo much better, and he is already showing a post game that is as good as Iowa has had from a center since perhaps Acie Earl.

Gesell: Will struggle against athletic guards this year but the thing I like about him is he forgets bad plays. Just flushes them.

Clemmons: May turn out to be the steal of the class. Van Coleman said not to sleep on his offense when he was signed...and he is showing some skills there...his assist to turnover total so far this year is out of this world and he is a good on ball defender.

White: Quickly moving up my personal ranks of favorite Iowa players ever. Love watching that kid play.

Thought tonight at one point when Woodbury and White went out...how about next year when that happens..you bring in Basabe and Uthoff. The pieces are coming together.
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One thing I noticed: Woodbury looks like a natural leader.looked like team often was fueled by his excitement.
 
Woodbury doesn’t get enough credit for how hard he works to get position and how successful he is at getting it - makes those 3-5ft hooks a lot easier.

Really didn’t expect the Clemmons/Luscious matchup going our way.
 
Let's not forget to give kuddos to Fran & Co for not hesitating to start Clemmons & Gesell instead of being married to the idea of Mike as THE point guard with Anthony serving as the backup. Also, keep in mind that Mike has only been learning the #2 spot in this offense for a couple of weeks as he was not expected to play there at all heading into the season so I think that tandem will only get better as they become more comfortable being on the floor at the same time.
 
JonDMiller said:
A few more thoughts...

Woodbury: He needs to get stronger obviously, but I did not expect the kind of offensive arsenal he has. That half hook is pretty deadly and something that will make him a lot of cash. It would appear that facing triangle and two or triples teams in high school had an effect. The kid is going to get sooooo much better, and he is already showing a post game that is as good as Iowa has had from a center since perhaps Acie Earl.

Gesell: Will struggle against athletic guards this year but the thing I like about him is he forgets bad plays. Just flushes them.

Clemmons: May turn out to be the steal of the class. Van Coleman said not to sleep on his offense when he was signed...and he is showing some skills there...his assist to turnover total so far this year is out of this world and he is a good on ball defender.

White: Quickly moving up my personal ranks of favorite Iowa players ever. Love watching that kid play.

Thought tonight at one point when Woodbury and White went out...how about next year when that happens..you bring in Basabe and Uthoff. The pieces are coming together.
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Jon, so what you are saying is that you like White and he reminds you of Bartels, if Bartels were a couple of inches taller and had more offense;)

And man, re Woodbury, you are right re his half hook. He isn't quite refined, but his shooting skills are pretty nice already. While he is weak right now, as you have previously pointed out and Bonner did tonight as well, he still gets a pretty good amount of rebounds when you look at the minutes he plays. Put that rate at 27 minutes a game and he is pulling down 7 to 8 per game.

Once these guys start playing something higher than above average defense they could be really good. If only we could play that kind of D this season...we'll see., I guess. Clemmons can set the tone there, and I am pumped to see his development.
 
Jon

Agree with your summary. I hate to drink the Kool-aide but this team started 3 freshman and a sophomore, they haven't even started to scratch their potential. Give Fran some credit we hopefully have a lot to look forward to.
 
Jon

Are you old enough to remember Bill Walton? AWhite is my favorite red-head since him. He just seems to be having a lot of fun out there and it seems his teammates feed off him and Woody. If Baasbe can improve his intensity and consistency look out.
 
clonedude said:
Wow.... when ISU won one football game against Iowa in 4 meetings it was called an anamoly and it only happened because that was the only game we got up for all year long.

So Iowa wins one game in the last 4 meetings in basketball and all of the sudden they are dominant now, huh? Interesting how that works.

I just hope the Iowa fans support this team when the B1G teams are laying them to waste this year. I hope Carver doesn't become a morgue again and you have to resort to handing out free pizza, free ice cream, and stuffed animals to your students to get them to show up? This team deserves better than that.
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BigD said:
The tears are falling in Ames. "They're baaaaaaaaaack"
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We are and Hoiberg's matador D like the pros is going to cost the PsyClowns alot of away losses. While they are experienced and have talent they don't like to play half-court BBall and don't like to play D at all. Hoiberg might be a great guy but he looks smug on the sidelines.
 
We beat them with a bunch of Freshman and Sophomores and if it weren't for all their 3's we would have beaten them by 20
 
clonedude said:
Wow.... when ISU won one football game against Iowa in 4 meetings it was called an anamoly and it only happened because that was the only game we got up for all year long.

So Iowa wins one game in the last 4 meetings in basketball and all of the sudden they are dominant now, huh? Interesting how that works.

I just hope the Iowa fans support this team when the B1G teams are laying them to waste this year. I hope Carver doesn't become a morgue again and you have to resort to handing out free pizza, free ice cream, and stuffed animals to your students to get them to show up? This team deserves better than that.
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WOW those are some serious sour grapes there by a PsyClown! Your team plays NO D and if you don't hit 10+ 3s per game YOU will be the road kill and laid waste to. Everyone knows the BIG 10 is the BEST bball conference top to bottom again this year so OF COURSE we are going to take our lumps...but we beat you going away tonight by a bunch of FRESHMAN and SOPHOMORES...get it you clown.
 
clonedude said:
Wow.... when ISU won one football game against Iowa in 4 meetings it was called an anamoly and it only happened because that was the only game we got up for all year long.

So Iowa wins one game in the last 4 meetings in basketball and all of the sudden they are dominant now, huh? Interesting how that works.

I just hope the Iowa fans support this team when the B1G teams are laying them to waste this year. I hope Carver doesn't become a morgue again and you have to resort to handing out free pizza, free ice cream, and stuffed animals to your students to get them to show up? This team deserves better than that.
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loser, what should concern you and all clowns is the way Fran completely schooled "teh mayor". Your boy was out-coached by our man, and it wasn't close in that critical dept.
isu has on the roster more talent and far more experience, yet Iowa won comfortably.
You should be very concerned about coach rolodex; Fran exposed him as a fraud.
U mad. U jelly.
 
Instead of the MAYOR they should call Hoiberg the MATADOR because his team plays absolutely NO D and the only reason they are so good rebounding is because of all those 20 foot bouncers coming off the rim when they fire up 30 3s.
 
It was a nice W by the Hawks, but they seemed to miss a lot of shots, and we were kinda lucky to have isu miss so many of theirs. Granted, we made some shots when we needed to, and rebounding played a huge role.

It just shows the type of upside that exists for the Hawks. That increased shooting pctg should progress with the season and keep us in more games until the end, at which point any team can win.

I think the Hawks are going to turn some heads this season, and we b dancing this year. Nice W.
 
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