hawkeyegamefilm
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Took a deeper look at the Iowa Running game.
http://hawkeyenation.com/football/hawkeyes-running-in-place
http://hawkeyenation.com/football/hawkeyes-running-in-place
Hawkeyes running in place
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HuckFinn
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One of the most enlightening, interesting articles I have ever read about Iowa's run game scheme and personnel. Although I had a basic understanding of zone blocking and i often watch the O line through binoculars during games, this will give me a new perspective to look at in 2015. I am excited!
I truly hope that some of the negative feeling posters will carefully read this article and take it to heart. The author is a Hawk fan, no doubt, but his ability to remain neutral and point out weaknesses where they exist is refreshing. I do not mean this as an "I told you so" kind of comment.
I have said all along that it is tough for me to evaluate the offensive line, except in the very obvious ways. But, it has not been hard for me to establish that we are just very, very weak at the featured running back position...with hats off to the efforts of a great Hawkeye, Mark W. And, unfortunately, unless Hilliard or our new guy (sorry, lost his name) really break in, we will struggle in 2015 as well.
I hope the coaches will be willing to see that freshman running backs, or redshirts, do break through for substantial playing time in this world of physically advanced recruits. So, Go Hawks!
I truly hope that some of the negative feeling posters will carefully read this article and take it to heart. The author is a Hawk fan, no doubt, but his ability to remain neutral and point out weaknesses where they exist is refreshing. I do not mean this as an "I told you so" kind of comment.
I have said all along that it is tough for me to evaluate the offensive line, except in the very obvious ways. But, it has not been hard for me to establish that we are just very, very weak at the featured running back position...with hats off to the efforts of a great Hawkeye, Mark W. And, unfortunately, unless Hilliard or our new guy (sorry, lost his name) really break in, we will struggle in 2015 as well.
I hope the coaches will be willing to see that freshman running backs, or redshirts, do break through for substantial playing time in this world of physically advanced recruits. So, Go Hawks!
BILLBUCKNER
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The ability to run the football is so crucial to kfootball success,it hard to understand how Iowa has failed to keep the RB position stocked. I don't know why a top RB wouldn't want to be apart of this offense when they'll get ample opportunities to run the ball. Airbag has made a living picking off our RBs. KF has also failed to recruit top fg and punters. Very important cogs in kfootball.
NCHawker
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please
take some time and educate patrick vint.
trj
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I still see it as a basic 3 prong breakdown: inside zone, outside zone, stretch. The outside zone concept that looks like a basic off tackle run is what Coker/Weisman excelled at. The stretch, which required the most footwork, they struggled, it allowed defenders to crash from the backside, defenses never had to worry about over pursuing because Weisman/Coker couldn't plant, cut and hit the seam.
Pretty decent right up, but it overlooks one player by painting with a broad brush and using tunnel vision.
Wadley got legit playing time in just one game. When he did, he ran for over 100 yards and averaged 7 or 8 yards per carry. Just because the staff did not play him much or he fumbled the ball two times in his career, doesn't mean he is in the same league as a typical 5th string rb Who will never be an every down back. Kid simply did not get a chance to showcase his ability under Kirk...likely because Weismann got good grades and therefore made him a more valuable candidate for exclusive playing time.
Wadley got legit playing time in just one game. When he did, he ran for over 100 yards and averaged 7 or 8 yards per carry. Just because the staff did not play him much or he fumbled the ball two times in his career, doesn't mean he is in the same league as a typical 5th string rb Who will never be an every down back. Kid simply did not get a chance to showcase his ability under Kirk...likely because Weismann got good grades and therefore made him a more valuable candidate for exclusive playing time.
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Knight78
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Did you see the four teams in the national championship? They all run the football well and often. What do Seattle and New England have in common? Strong running games. The same could be said for Green Bay (Aaron Rogers did well before Eddie Lacy was there, but he's been much better since). ALL successful football teams know that the ability to run the football is crucial to success... not just crucial to "kfootball success" as you put it.
Very interesting article. To me besides the line play executing for the running backs they have to have three things. Patience to not press the line too quick, vision to see the hole/cutback lane and acceleration to hit it. The rest of the tangibles in a rb as far as size, tackle breaking ability and top end speed are cherries on the top. If you have those first 3 things you'll have yourself a very productive back in this style. My best examples of this would be Arob and Freddy Russell. Neither of them anyone would say are physical studs or even that fast. But they ran with vision could accelerate and had patience.... Shonn Greene brought all that and then some and you all saw what he did...
I think it's too soon to go saying Wadley is the next superstar RB. I also think it's too soon to say he's a fumbling bust... Has he even had 50 touches in his career yet? It takes more then that to get a sense of what a player can do. I think this spring camp will be interesting with the competition for it. I think they have capable guys to do it. But the O line worries me...
I think it's too soon to go saying Wadley is the next superstar RB. I also think it's too soon to say he's a fumbling bust... Has he even had 50 touches in his career yet? It takes more then that to get a sense of what a player can do. I think this spring camp will be interesting with the competition for it. I think they have capable guys to do it. But the O line worries me...
BILLBUCKNER
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Offense seems to be an anoyance for KF. To him,its only a means to control the ball ,eat clock and get field position for his defense rather than score points. Punting is winning in kfootball. Boring..but more enjoyable with wins. Those other teams you speak of score as much as possible and play for championships .
HomerChampless
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NE doesn't run the ball well. Controlled passing is more like it. GB's offense revolves around Rodgers. How often have you seen him run or the team run for that matter?
If you're attempting to talk about conservative football which the Hawks and Seattle try to emulate, I'd say Seattle has something Iowa doesn't that's essential to successful conservative football: a solid defense. Iowa hasn't had a solid defense for quite a few seasons.
If you're attempting to talk about conservative football which the Hawks and Seattle try to emulate, I'd say Seattle has something Iowa doesn't that's essential to successful conservative football: a solid defense. Iowa hasn't had a solid defense for quite a few seasons.
imported_ankle23
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ohio state crushed oregon in large part due to them shutting down their run game. oregon is noted for their *fancy* offense, but at the end of the day they get beat with teams who can control their run game (held them to 130 yards) running and stopping the run are crucial for any team, any level.
BILLBUCKNER
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Yeah, i GET IT THAT TEAMS NEED TO RUN THE FOOTBALL TO BE SUCCESSFUL. But Kfootbal is all about DEFENSE, ball control offense to eat clock and get field position for his DEFENSE to have a chance to win the game at the end. The last game I can remember Iowa winning on its last drive was Ball St. Conversely I remember many games that it came down to our defense having to hold the other team from scoring to have a chance at the win because conservative kfootball prefers it that way. The unforgetable OHIO St **** it down our leg with the football ,but alloowing time to dwindle away instead of the OFFENSE winning the game at the end... Gameday did a nice write up,but he pulled his punches by blaming the lack of running game on having a FB tote the rock..., well dah..Who's fault was it that happened???Who failed to recruit or retain or play real RBs? Who couldn't come up with plays to go against our tendencies and punish defenses that stacked the box..Never any misdirection??
The 4 teams in the national championship have a staff that can recruit talented running backs, and then actually put them on the field. Not our staff. 2 fullbacks in the same backfield. The rest of the nation must just laugh at us. Actually we're so irrelevant nobody bothers.
MoseSchrute
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It takes a special kind of coach to apologize to an opposing coach for a late TD and also take a swipe at a player who scored that TD when he "wasn't supposed to".
hawkeyegamefilm
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The official story on Hampton was a 'change of scenery' type move. Could have been friction with the coaches or issues w/his 2nd ACL rehab or maybe he really did just want to leave the place where he endured two major knee injuries. Either way he did pretty well for himself after leaving Iowa; would have been a big help to 2011 Iowa team.
McCall was suspended for his final two games at Iowa for team rule violation of some kind. McCall then transferred to Southern Illinois and has had an underwhelming career where he had a 500 yard 8TD 2012, then was suspended for almost all of 2013 and then suspended for a couple of games in 2014 as well. Links here and here
imported_ankle23
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Hampton failed internal drug test - wasn't that the story? and i believe he had a history. this was post-DJK and due to that, several players were under drug-test scrutiny, and i believe that hampton was a casualty of that.
