Hawkeye Tourney Talk and This Week's Power Rankings



activebadger said:
JonDMiller said:
Let's lead off with some NCAA tournament chatter from a couple of talking heads on twitter:


4. Wisconsin: As much as I can't stand their style of play, they're winning and doing so without their best option at point guard.


I love how every week that your Wisconsin take comes with some type of qualifier: "I can't stand their style of play but.." "I think they will come back down to earth but.."

Wisconsin is clearly in your head more than any other BIG Ten team. Love it.

Penn State isn't going to go winless, they are on the verge of beating somebody. We are their last game on Senior Day in State College. I'm just hoping it's not us but they are going to get somebody one of these days.
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I love how every time Jon makes one of these Power Ranking posts, you feel the need to come on and tell everyone how great Wisconsin is. He says "can't stand their style of play" because he can't stand their style of play. No one can.

PS: I actually don't love it, so please never do it again.
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ChosenChildren said:
BankrollSports.com has Iowa right now as a #2 seed in the NIT. That would get us at least 2 home games (assuming we win the first).

NIT might not be all bad for this young team......
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Seriously, did you develop this site. Who the hell even goes to this site.
 




activebadger said:
Selection committee members aren't going to look at where you fall in the conference AT ALL. If Iowa wins 10 games, 7 of those would have come against (NW, Neb, PSU and Purdue). Almost all of your non-conference wins came against really bad teams save for Iowa State who is fringe Top 50. You also haven't beaten anyone of significance away from Carver. Winning at Wisconsin would have alleviated much of those things. Mike DeCourcy said pretty much the same thing last night and Jerry Palm agreed with him. Fran should have scheduled a little better in the non-conference, that was a really weak schedule.

Bottom line is if you go 10-8 and win one game in the BTT then you are about a 60% chance. 10-8 and 2 games in the BTT and I'd think you'd be a lock. That Illinois game is a straight on "must win" game.
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Quick, when's the last time a team from the B1G finished above .500 in conference and didn't make the NCAA tournament. If Iowa finishes 10-8 in conference they're a lock, not too mention Iowa would finish 6th, they're not limiting the B1G to 5 teams. Now go away.
 


Im not sure why people keep comparing Iowa's resume and where the Hawks finish in the conference standings with Illinois and Minnesota. Its not like the committee has a certain number of B1G teams they are going to take and thats it.

The most important thing, besides Iowa continuing to win, is that all the favorites win their conference tourneys so no at-large spots get stolen.
 


ActiveButthur!, I hate Wisky's style of play, it's what's wrong with college basketball. I don't like Bo's antics on the sideline, yes I know all coaches do it. I don't like how he handled the JU situation. I could go on and on, but I won't. Most people don't like you on here either because your response is the same on different posts. Why do you feel the need to post on all of Jon's power rankings where he says he doesn't like Wisky? He still gives the credit where credit is due.
 


Active Badger is on the committee and he knows EXACTLY what they will look at. If he says they won't consider a 6th place finish at all, then I agree with him.
Well done Badger and thank you for the insider knowledge!
 


Section136 said:
Im not sure why people keep comparing Iowa's resume and where the Hawks finish in the conference standings with Illinois and Minnesota. Its not like the committee has a certain number of B1G teams they are going to take and thats it.

The most important thing, besides Iowa continuing to win, is that all the favorites win their conference tourneys so no at-large spots get stolen.
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winner winner chicken dinner!!!!

Iowa will only be competing for an at large spot with another B1G school is if both schools sit on the bubble. Otherwise Iowa's resume will be compared to schools like Saint Mary, Virginia, Temple, ect ect or whoever is on the bubble. If you look at some of those other schools resumes, Iowa stacks up nicely.
 


JonDMiller said:
Let's lead off with some NCAA tournament chatter from a couple of talking heads on twitter:

Jerry Palm
https://twitter.com/jppalmCBS/status/303323089805139968

Seth Davis
https://twitter.com/SethDavisHoops/status/303247992549437440

Iowa's RPI was in the high 80's before their win against Minnesota. They moved into the high 70's right after the game and we'll see how they settle out early this week. Do the Hawkeyes have a serious shot to make the NCAA tournament?

I wouldn't call it 'serious' just yet. A shot? Yes but as Jerry Palm said, it's still in long shot status. Long shot, but the Hawkeyes have the schedule to get closer to the cut line. What is the cut line?

Here is a list of 'high' RPI's for teams who made the NCAA tournament as at large teams since 2005:

#67 USC (2011)
#64 Marquette (2011)
#63 Stanford (2007)
#63 NC State (2005)

2005 was the last time the RPI had an overhaul of any significance. There have been higher (or worse) RPI's in the dance prior to that, but go with the post 2005 angle here. Can Iowa get into this range if it wins four of its next five games? Yes it can and it could get into the high 50's.

This is just my opinion, but I'd wager on it; if Iowa goes 4-1 to end the regular season and wins their first game at the Big Ten tournament, they likely get into the NCAA Tournament. Do that and win their first two in the Big Ten tournament and we're in lock territory.

How likely is 4-1? Iowa has two games against Nebraska and home games against Purdue and Illinois. None of those teams has a winning record in the Big Ten. Nebraska is 3-10 and the Boilermakers are in the midst of a real dark finish to this year. Illinois is starting to tick back the other way and that game will be a challenge. Iowa also plays at Indiana and I give them next to no chance at a win there.

For now? Just keep winning. The game at Nebraska Thursday night will be a challenge and then Iowa hosts Purdue six days later before their game at Indiana. Lose the game at Nebraska and all of the NCAA talk evaporates.

Now, this week's Power Rankings:

1. Indiana: Hoosiers travel to take on the Spartans Tuesday. Oladipo tweaked an ankle against Purdue and is 'day to day'. Both the Spartans and Hoosiers are 11-2 in the league so this is a pretty big game.

2. Michigan State: They begin a brutal stretch; vs #1 in the nation, then at Ohio State and Michigan back to back before hosting Wisconsin.

3. Michigan: Wolverines starting to slide a little bit and beat Penn State at home by just eight points on Sunday.

4. Wisconsin: As much as I can't stand their style of play, they're winning and doing so without their best option at point guard.

5. Ohio State: Scoring less than 50 points in Madison doesn't make them unique...but it sure was ugly.

6. Illinois: From 2-7 to 7-7? Beat Penn State Thursday and that's five in a row.

7. Iowa: The Hawkeyes are one win away from being 7-7 themselves

8. Minnesota: They began the year 15-1 and have gone 3-7 since.

9. Purdue: They are 5-8 in the league and still play at Iowa and Wisconsin and host Michigan and Minnesota.

10. Northwestern
11. Nebraska
12. Penn State: I don't see them avoiding 0-18. They finish at Illinois, v Michigan, at Minnesota, at Northwestern and v Wisconsin
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Most of this post is a repeat from another post but it fits perfect as a response for your post.

Screw the RPI #'s and ratings.. does anyone watch college BB games anymore.... or just get up in the morning and look at numbers? Jon?

Sheesh... how about an objective scientific research survey of geeks/pundits/analysts like me who have now watched over 200 games since conference games began in January?

I got hooked back up with Direct TV and my "job" allows me to watch and DVR these games... I've watched games and teams from every conference, every region, mid-majors and all over.

It's called the "EYEBALL" POLL combined with the "WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE CLOSE LOSS OR WIN" POLL.

The Hawkeyes are playing too good, too deep, too hungry and too well... along with good coaching ... NOT to win 5 more games and get in... despite the RIP of 77 or whatever it is.

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings need some work... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
 


aaronzuriel said:
Most of this post is a repeat from another post but it fits perfect as a response for your post.

Screw the RPI #'s and ratings.. does anyone watch college BB games anymore.... or just get up in the morning and look at numbers? Jon?

Sheesh... how about an objective scientific research survey of geeks/pundits/analysts like me who have now watched over 200 games since conference games began in January?

I got hooked back up with Direct TV and my "job" allows me to watch and DVR these games... I've watched games and teams from every conference, every region, mid-majors and all over.

It's called the "EYEBALL" POLL combined with the "WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE CLOSE LOSS OR WIN" POLL.

The Hawkeyes are playing too good, too deep, too hungry and too well... along with good coaching ... NOT to win 5 more games and get in... despite the RIP of 77 or whatever it is.

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings need some work... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
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tx for the bump...

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings SUCK ... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
 


aaronzuriel said:
Most of this post is a repeat from another post but it fits perfect as a response for your post.

Screw the RPI #'s and ratings.. does anyone watch college BB games anymore.... or just get up in the morning and look at numbers? Jon?

Sheesh... how about an objective scientific research survey of geeks/pundits/analysts like me who have now watched over 200 games since conference games began in January?

I got hooked back up with Direct TV and my "job" allows me to watch and DVR these games... I've watched games and teams from every conference, every region, mid-majors and all over.

It's called the "EYEBALL" POLL combined with the "WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE CLOSE LOSS OR WIN" POLL.

The Hawkeyes are playing too good, too deep, too hungry and too well... along with good coaching ... NOT to win 5 more games and get in... despite the RIP of 77 or whatever it is.

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings need some work... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
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My thoughts are you just made activebadger look smart. Well done.
 


aaronzuriel said:
tx for the bump...

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings SUCK ... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
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aaronzuriel said:
Most of this post is a repeat from another post but it fits perfect as a response for your post.

Screw the RPI #'s and ratings.. does anyone watch college BB games anymore.... or just get up in the morning and look at numbers? Jon?

Sheesh... how about an objective scientific research survey of geeks/pundits/analysts like me who have now watched over 200 games since conference games began in January?

I got hooked back up with Direct TV and my "job" allows me to watch and DVR these games... I've watched games and teams from every conference, every region, mid-majors and all over.

It's called the "EYEBALL" POLL combined with the "WHAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE CLOSE LOSS OR WIN" POLL.

The Hawkeyes are playing too good, too deep, too hungry and too well... along with good coaching ... NOT to win 5 more games and get in... despite the RIP of 77 or whatever it is.

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings need some work... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
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Herby
 


aaronzuriel said:
tx for the bump...

Thanks Jon for the opportunity for my response... btw your weekly Big Ten Power Rankings SUCK ... they are the same as the conference standings... How about this for some POWER RANKINGS..

1. MI ST
2. IU
3. MI
4. IA
5. WI
6. IL
7. OH ST
8 Minnesota
9. PSU
10. NW
11.Nebby
12.Purdue

Any thoughts?
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I think you are high
 










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