Happy 88th B-Day Hayden Fry
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MelroseHawkins
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Wow! 88. Hard to believe.
judzeehawk
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Doesn't make me feel any younger!!!! Happy Birthday Hayden!
hawkeyebob62
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Happy Birthday, Coach!
docholihawk
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Simply. THE BEST!!
EstronHawkKing
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I was in elementary school when Hayden was hired at Iowa
hawkdrummer1
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On the short list of Iowa greats... Hayden will always have a spot.
Thawki
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His first year where? Not at Iowa, obviously.
That would be the equivalent of about $150,000 today. Could that have been the market rate for first year HCs back then?
ChosenChildren
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Without question, the greatest coach in Iowa football history
SteveGarvey1
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Loved Hayden but I would question it. Guy named Kirk hasn't been that bad either.
Thawki
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Hayden obviously wasn't a first year head coach, but a very experienced head coach in his first contract at Iowa.
Regardless, that wasn't his first contract amount at Iowa. At least not when you figure in the pay from all sources, like radio and television, etc. He was probably making $300k on that first deal, I am thinking. And I have a hard time believing that even the amount just from the university was $45K.
HawkU
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According to the narrator in the video he was paid $45k his first year at Iowa. I guess you didn't watch it.
HawkU
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Yes - KF hasn't done too bad either and I think they are both very comparable in their coaching abilities and W-L records.
But if you want to talk about who had the most impact on the program as a whole I would have to give the nod to Fry. Before he arrived, Iowa had no winning seasons for 17 years. He flipped the losing culture that was Iowa football for a very long time.
Fry was the springboard to what we see today. KF didn't change a losing culture because he didn't have to.
It remains to be seen if and when KF's tenure will create a springboard effect and what that will produce.
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ChosenChildren
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It does open up a great question. Who has been better, Fry or Ferentz? Here is a comparison:
Big Ten titles (including division titles): Hayden 3; Kirk 3
Bowl games: Hayden: 14 in 20 years; Kirk: 14 in 18 years
Bowl wins: Each has 6
BCS Bowl games: Hayden 3 (3 rose); Kirk 3 (2 Orange and 1 rose)
Total wins: Hayden 141; Kirk 135
Overall win %: Hayden 61% Kirk at 59.9%
Still a slight edge to Fry, but Ferentz has time to surpass him.
Thawki
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You are correct. I didn't watch it. And whatever the narrator said, that was not the amount of his first contract. That MAYBE was the amount he was paid by the University of Iowa. A coach's overall compensation comes from a multitude of sources besides the university and all of those are actually part of their contract.
I guess the assumption is that if this narrator said it then it is fact. I would actually still question it but don't feel the need to debate it. I am simply saying that his first contract as the head coach at Iowa was for more that $45,000 annually and that if there is any part of that figure that is actually true then it is perhaps that he was paid that amount annually solely from the University but had other sources of income outlined in his contract.
SteveGarvey1
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Yeah, not saying Hayden wasn't better than Kirk but that's it's fair to say it's up for debate.
Motigerhawk
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I love Hayden Fry.
He is leaps and bounds above if only for two things he brought to Iowa; 1. The Tigerhawk logo. This has become one of the most recognizable logos in all of college football. 2. The passing game. He single handedly brought the B1G from a 3 yards and a cloud of dust league to a passing league. KF has taken our program back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
And who can forget him getting all those feminists up in the air? Oh, and the pink locker room?
What has KF done that makes this program different than any other in the league or nation?
He is leaps and bounds above if only for two things he brought to Iowa; 1. The Tigerhawk logo. This has become one of the most recognizable logos in all of college football. 2. The passing game. He single handedly brought the B1G from a 3 yards and a cloud of dust league to a passing league. KF has taken our program back to 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
And who can forget him getting all those feminists up in the air? Oh, and the pink locker room?
What has KF done that makes this program different than any other in the league or nation?
HawkU
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Right. I'm guessing that the $45k was a base salary with incentives attached. I didn't dig too deep but a brief glance at Google turned up an old article from 1988 by the Deseret News.
Quoting:
The state Board of Regents has approved a $10,400 raise for Iowa football coach Hayden Fry, increasing his annual salary to $113,800, more than double the amount he received when he took the job nearly 10 years ago.
Fry, 59, is under contract until June 30, 1995. He was paid $45,000 in his first season - 1979-80. The Board also raised the salary of Iowa basketball coach Tom Davis by 11.5 percent, or $9,500, bringing his salary in his third season to $92,000.
If true that seems mind-boggling. Nine years on the job and HF was up to only $113.8k per year. What an arms race college football has become.
HawkU
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Fry knew that to turn around such a losing culture you have to start with the simple basics and things that you can do now to change the course.
One of those was to ask the owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who had great success during that time, if Iowa could model their uniforms after them.
At least look like a winner until you actually are one.
