Guys I need your help with QBs and RBs

Joshbrown

Joshbrown

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http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/194

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2294

JT Barret has a rating of 158.4
Stanley has a rating of 176.0

So what do the numbers mean . . . besides the fact that Stanley is better than Barret and we will be beat Ohio State (which he clearly is and we clearly will)

Also, I noticed that Wadley averaged 4.8 yards a carry and Butler averaged 4.7 against Wyoming . . . I would like to hear opinions regarding what is the optimal (%) split in carries going forward
 
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The scale has an upper limit of 1,261.6 (every attempt is a 99-yard completion for touchdown), and a lower limit of −731.6 (every attempt is completed, but results in a 99-yard loss). A passer who throws only interceptions will have a −200 rating, as would a passer who only throws completed passes losing an average of 35.714 yards.
 
Joshbrown said:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/194

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2294

JT Barret has a rating of 158.4
Stanley has a rating of 176.0

So what do the numbers mean . . . besides the fact that Stanley is better than Barret and we will be beat Ohio State (which he clearly is and we clearly will)

Also, I noticed that Wadley averaged 4.8 yards a carry and Butler averaged 4.7 against Wyoming . . . I would like to hear opinions regarding what is the optimal (%) split in carries going forward
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I would like to think that the split between the two RB's would depend on the type of RB that is needed each game and situation. If Wadley can do what he did last year in the Michigan game, than I'm fine with a 25-10 split. If we need more of a power back, then 25-10 the other way.

Also the situation may dictate who is used. In 1990, Nick Bell and Tony Stewart had almost exactly the same number of carries and were within ~150 yards of each other, but Bell, being the power back, had 12 TD's to Stewart's 3.
 
Joshbrown said:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/194

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2294

JT Barret has a rating of 158.4
Stanley has a rating of 176.0

So what do the numbers mean . . . besides the fact that Stanley is better than Barret and we will be beat Ohio State (which he clearly is and we clearly will)
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While I agree with what you're saying, I have to think that Barret's passer rating will not be that high all season, since he's not going to play against Indiana every week. On the other hand, Stanley's number may be the floor for the season, since it was his first start and was playing against a D-backfield that returned from last season, featured an all-conference performer, and faced multiple blitzes nearly every play, coupled with a very young and inexperienced WR corp AND the fact that ButWad, who had 73 catches last season caught none on Saturday, will be incorporated in the passing game more, you should only expect Stanley's number to soar.

Sorry for being so long-winded, but what I'm saying is yes, Barret will get more pub while Stanley will continue to prove to be the superior QB.

Not sure if my ramblings/opinion answers any of what you asked, but they are my thoughts on the issue.
 
mopkins said:
If a baseball player hits 2 homers in game 1 does that mean they will hit 324 homers that season or is it just a really small sample size that shouldn't be overreacted to?
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Okay, but what about your feelings regarding my RB question
 
99topdawg said:
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The scale has an upper limit of 1,261.6 (every attempt is a 99-yard completion for touchdown), and a lower limit of −731.6 (every attempt is completed, but results in a 99-yard loss). A passer who throws only interceptions will have a −200 rating, as would a passer who only throws completed passes losing an average of 35.714 yards.
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Nice work.
 
99topdawg said:
I would like to think that the split between the two RB's would depend on the type of RB that is needed each game and situation. If Wadley can do what he did last year in the Michigan game, than I'm fine with a 25-10 split. If we need more of a power back, then 25-10 the other way.

Also the situation may dictate who is used. In 1990, Nick Bell and Tony Stewart had almost exactly the same number of carries and were within ~150 yards of each other, but Bell, being the power back, had 12 TD's to Stewart's 3.
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Reasonable.

Butler got 30% of the carries. Since it was Wyoming I was kinda hoping for a more 50/50 split just for comparison's sake. I kinda figured we wouldn't work Wadley as hard in the OOC and save him for the conference games. Some people on here mentioned they were surprised he was the work-horse late in the game when things had been decided.
I'm excited the see WadlBut against the Cyclones. Hopefully some catches out of the backfield for both of them.
 
Joshbrown said:
Okay, but what about your feelings regarding my RB question
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Wadley should get around 25 carries a game. Butler should get 10-15 depending on how the game is going and to keep Wadley fresh. I'd be all for giving someone other than Wadley the goaline and short yardage carries.

I was disappointed neither was thrown to out of the backfield vs wyoming. Wadley has proven dangerous on flat and wheel routes
 
mopkins said:
Wadley should get around 25 carries a game. Butler should get 10-15 depending on how the game is going and to keep Wadley fresh. I'd be all for giving someone other than Wadley the goaline and short yardage carries.

I was disappointed neither was thrown to out of the backfield vs wyoming. Wadley has proven dangerous on flat and wheel routes
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Why give the teams we play in the future more to see than needed?

I was yelling for a screen all game at my tv. Later I realized two things: 1. They did not need go leave vanilla to win thiz one.
2. My dog hates it when I yell at the TV, but my toddler thinks it is funny. Toddler wins.
 
Joshbrown said:
Reasonable.

Butler got 30% of the carries. Since it was Wyoming I was kinda hoping for a more 50/50 split just for comparison's sake. I kinda figured we wouldn't work Wadley as hard in the OOC and save him for the conference games. Some people on here mentioned they were surprised he was the work-horse late in the game when things had been decided.
I'm excited the see WadlBut against the Cyclones. Hopefully some catches out of the backfield for both of them.
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30 % of all carries or 30% of the carries by runningbacks?
 
99topdawg said:
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The scale has an upper limit of 1,261.6 (every attempt is a 99-yard completion for touchdown), and a lower limit of −731.6 (every attempt is completed, but results in a 99-yard loss). A passer who throws only interceptions will have a −200 rating, as would a passer who only throws completed passes losing an average of 35.714 yards.
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did you look this up or actually do the math?
 
mopkins said:
Wadley should get around 25 carries a game. Butler should get 10-15 depending on how the game is going and to keep Wadley fresh. I'd be all for giving someone other than Wadley the goaline and short yardage carries.

I was disappointed neither was thrown to out of the backfield vs wyoming. Wadley has proven dangerous on flat and wheel routes
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I know that's how this game shaped up but I thought 24 touches is on the high side for Wadley especially since he's returning kicks too... I kinda thought their split would be more 60/40. And maybe going forward it will be. We also didn't see Young or any 3rd rb out there. I bet Butler and Young would be the primary goal line guys we only really had that one chance down there with that and Butler was in there for it.
 
Hard to know w/o knowing how many offensive plays are going to be run.

The question you didn't ask there is pretty important - What is the split going to be between run and pass?

I like percentages so Wadley should be @ 55%, Butler gets 30%, Stanley should be @ 10% and Young gets around 5%..

If the Hawks break up the rushing attempts something like that in any game then we will be having success if past history is an indicator.

Of course there is the "Hot hand" variable to contend with as well. If Butler is getting 20% more yards per carry then they need to be willing to swap those percentages around. Goes for Young as well.
 
Joshbrown said:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/194

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/stats/_/id/2294

JT Barret has a rating of 158.4
Stanley has a rating of 176.0

So what do the numbers mean . . . besides the fact that Stanley is better than Barret and we will be beat Ohio State (which he clearly is and we clearly will)

Also, I noticed that Wadley averaged 4.8 yards a carry and Butler averaged 4.7 against Wyoming . . . I would like to hear opinions regarding what is the optimal (%) split in carries going forward
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Numbers always tell a lot...but they never tell you the whole story.
 
Stanley was 174.3 for this game. 174.77 for the year. Don't ask me how this week brought his rating down, though. I guess the 3 TD's in 15 attempts/8 comp. was better.
 
99topdawg said:
Stanley was 174.3 for this game. 174.77 for the year. Don't ask me how this week brought his rating down, though. I guess the 3 TD's in 15 attempts/8 comp. was better.
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We need more Butler IMO and Stanley is a gamer . . . but missing wide open receivers is driving me crazy(er). BF needs to give him some corrective lenses to fix his depth perception.

Other than that we just beat 2 juggernaughts and I see us easily winning the West this year.
 
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