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ssckelley
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Yes he shoots 3s off the dribble but very rarely does he dribble the ball down and chuck it up.
Yes I heard what the announcers said, Frans opinions of JB running a team is probably what will keep him at the PG. I don't see anybody coming in that can knock JB out of the PG spot for next year unless we see CW more at the point.
edit - oops, I missed the 5656 knock...I get what you are doing and all and it really doesn't bother me but there is a huge difference between what 5656 said about JB and what I am saying. Do you see it or does it need to be explained to you?
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ssckelley
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Huge difference in defending a shooting guard and a point guard. His weakness very well could become a strength if he was asked to guard the opposing teams shooting guard.
ssckelley
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What do you mean by this? If it's in reference to my last sentence you are wrong, I think JB is an incredible basketball player. Go back and look and see how all of this got started.
If that's the case, he can still guard the shooting guard on defense and play point guard on offense. There is no rule saying if you're a 1 you have to guard their 1.
InGoodCo
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Iowa has a great young PG, I personally don't get why some can't just enjoy that fact. He's a good shooter and a decent passer is selling it pretty short considering his 82 treys are 6th most in a single season in Iowa history. He is 2 assists shy of moving into 10th most assists in a season and the kids a Freshman. He is an ELITE PG. Every single player in America has weakness's in their game and while I agree his lateral quickness and D are his, Iowa doesn't need a better PG, that's ridiculous thinking at this point.
NikeHawk21
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Woah. Wouldn't that be kind of like how Moss guarded Monte Morris when we played Iowa State and Bohannon guarded Thomas to start? That's crazy man!
Next year we will be in even better shape because we won't have two guys who can't guard perimeter players playing 30 MPG.
NikeHawk21
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I don't see it. As I said the original "JBo is a shooting guard being asked to play PG" troll came from 5656 during PTL.
So while you may not be the only one who thought this way before this year. (I'm sure many college scouts thought the same). JBo has proven to be a good passer, ball handler, and in turn a good Point Guard.
ssckelley
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5656 trashed on JB overall, called him a volume scorer and not a good shooter. I've been very complimentary of JB, I think he's one hell of a basketball player but I feel he is better suited as a 2.
NikeHawk21
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Fair enough. I think I've made it very clear that I disagree with that assertion but at least I know you are actually an Iowa fan. It doesn't sound like either of our opinions are changing here.
ssckelley
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But it doesn't stop at defense, granted perimeter defense the most glaring weakness of the team, but it also affects the team on offense. JB struggles to get away from a quick point guard which becomes difficult in late game situations where Iowa is protecting a lead or if Iowa is needing a dribble drive to the basket when they are behind.
ssckelley
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This I agree with, part of our problem defensively has been Jok. Jok just cannot defend anybody aggressively without fouling, especially on the perimeter. I've seen a lot of people on here say Jok isn't interested in defense, that's not true as there has been times he's gotten aggressive, but the problem is when Jok focuses on defense he winds up in foul trouble. IMO, this is why we see Jok pull back not because he isn't interested but he wants to keep himself in the game.
He can feed the post in late game situations like Indiana where Cook got murdered and they didn't call it. Or he can do the pull up quick release 3 like he did at the end of the shot clock against Maryland. I agree that those aren't perfect, but other than that he isn't just a good offensive point guard, he's a great one. The thing we need most is a shooting guard who can do what you said and a rim protector who can help on defense. If we get those 2 things, we fix his limitations without losing his elite passing, shooting, and overall offensive leading.
The other way to look at it is if a player can get into the lane at will, play great defense, and shoot and pass like Bohannon, he would be an All American. So your argument is that either we need an All American, or that you would rather exchange great shooting and passing for great defense and great penetrating skills (lol I said great penetrating skills). The first option is unrealistic and the second option is 6 in one, half dozen in the other.
ssckelley
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No, I wouldn't expect a PG to be as good as Bohannon offensively. For the PG position I put a higher priority on ballhandling, quickness, and good man to man defense. They at least need to be a threat to score on the perimeter.
Or, they just need to be black.
No, I wouldn't expect a PG to be as good as Bohannon offensively. For the PG position I put a higher priority on ballhandling, quickness, and good man to man defense. They at least need to be a threat to score on the perimeter.
Or, they just need to be black.
Well yea, as long as they're black it doesn't really matter what their strengths are.
