Good Lord Jon.....

[HawkGold]

It is too bad that you come on here with all this misleading partially accurate and inaccurate crap to criticize a real Hawkeye fan like ClintonIAfan. You owe an apology to Clinton for making up this misleading garbage. Makes you look like a cyclone troll when you do this,

Troll word use is a last resort when one has run out of arguments. Which by definition is being troll like.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

It is too bad that you come on here with all this misleading partially accurate and inaccurate crap to criticize a real Hawkeye fan like ClintonIAfan. You owe an apology to Clinton for making up this misleading garbage. Makes you look like a cyclone troll when you do this,

ROFL. ClintonIAFan used a picture of a game with W.Mich at Iowa, where Iowa won by 40 points, in P.J. Fleck's first season at W.Mich to lead everyone to believe Fleck wasn't a good enough coach to be in the B1G or at Iowa. So, there is that. Then there is that what I wrote about Brian at NE is correct. Go look it up.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Brian was in scouting for NE in '08. In '09 he became an assistant with no positional coaching duties. That means he was a gopher. It wasn't until '11 that he was named TE coach and he did that for 1 season, with both of the TE's at the time being pro-bowl caliber TE's, which would be hard to screw up. So, you can overstate his importance to the Patriots and exaggerate what he learned from them all you want.

Regarding two 1000 yard rushers; how is that all Brian's credit? Greg Davis called all the plays, didn't he? AW and LD ran the ball, didn't they? But, since you want to give the run game coordinator all the credit for the running game, I have a question for you. Do you think kirk should hire a pass game coordinator to help the passing game? I'm sure you understand that it was the passing game that prevented this team from winning 10 games this season.

Note: Hayden Fry almost did it with Harmon and Gill, with one game less, and that was with a pass first offense. The critical thinker would ask why it took kirk ferentz 18 seasons to get the first dual 1000 yard rushers; since this is a run first offense. We finished 6th in the B1G in rushing yards per game (conf only). OSU finished 1st with more than 550 more yards that us. Perspective, Clinton...perspective.

<<Note: Hayden Fry almost did it with Harmon and Gill, with one game less, and that was with a pass first offense. The critical thinker would ask why it took kirk ferentz 18 seasons to get the first dual 1000 yard rushers; since this is a run first offense. We finished 6th in the B1G in rushing yards per game (conf only). OSU finished 1st with more than 550 more yards that us. Perspective, Clinton...perspective.[/QUOTE>>

<<(A)nd that was with a pass first offense>>

Credibility vanished...

 

[mopkins]

I love people saying he's too inexperienced or not ready. Take a look at this comparison:

Josh McDaniels:
1999 - GA at Michigan State
2001 - Personnel assistant, NE Patriots
2002-03 - Defensive assistant, NE Patriots
2004-05 - QB coach, NE patriots
2006 - O coordinator, NE patriots

Brian Ferentz:
2009 - Offensive coaching assistant, NE Patriots
2010 - Assistant TE coach, NE Patriots
2011 - TE coach, NE Patriots
2012-2016 - O-line coach, Iowa
2017 - O-coordinator, Iowa

They are very similar tracks. Does anyone think Josh McDaniels is over his head right now in New England or think that Bill Belichick promoted him to O-coordinator too soon? Keep in mind thats the NFL and this is Iowa.

 

[HawkGold]

I love people saying he's too inexperienced or not ready. Take a look at this comparison:

Josh McDaniels:
1999 - GA at Michigan State
2001 - Personnel assistant, NE Patriots
2002-03 - Defensive assistant, NE Patriots
2004-05 - QB coach, NE patriots
2006 - O coordinator, NE patriots

Brian Ferentz:
2009 - Offensive coaching assistant, NE Patriots
2010 - Assistant TE coach, NE Patriots
2011 - TE coach, NE Patriots
2012-2016 - O-line coach, Iowa
2017 - O-coordinator, Iowa

They are very similar tracks. Does anyone think Josh McDaniels is over his head right now in New England or think that Bill Belichick promoted him to O-coordinator too soon? Keep in mind thats the NFL and this is Iowa.

NFL and NCAA are 2 different animals. Give me Parcels and I'll take BF as O C.

 

[deanvogs]

I love people saying he's too inexperienced or not ready. Take a look at this comparison:

Josh McDaniels:
1999 - GA at Michigan State
2001 - Personnel assistant, NE Patriots
2002-03 - Defensive assistant, NE Patriots
2004-05 - QB coach, NE patriots
2006 - O coordinator, NE patriots

Brian Ferentz:
2009 - Offensive coaching assistant, NE Patriots
2010 - Assistant TE coach, NE Patriots
2011 - TE coach, NE Patriots
2012-2016 - O-line coach, Iowa
2017 - O-coordinator, Iowa

They are very similar tracks. Does anyone think Josh McDaniels is over his head right now in New England or think that Bill Belichick promoted him to O-coordinator too soon? Keep in mind thats the NFL and this is Iowa.

Great post. Heck if I went back through all the OC around D1 football and NFL football, I'd bet a ton of them are no more "qualified" or even less "qualified" than they claim Brian is.

 

[HomerChampless]

I love people saying he's too inexperienced or not ready. Take a look at this comparison:

Josh McDaniels:
1999 - GA at Michigan State
2001 - Personnel assistant, NE Patriots
2002-03 - Defensive assistant, NE Patriots
2004-05 - QB coach, NE patriots
2006 - O coordinator, NE patriots

Brian Ferentz:
2009 - Offensive coaching assistant, NE Patriots
2010 - Assistant TE coach, NE Patriots
2011 - TE coach, NE Patriots
2012-2016 - O-line coach, Iowa
2017 - O-coordinator, Iowa

They are very similar tracks. Does anyone think Josh McDaniels is over his head right now in New England or think that Bill Belichick promoted him to O-coordinator too soon? Keep in mind thats the NFL and this is Iowa.

Are you comparing the job trajectory of Josh McDaniels to Brian Ferentz 'cause McDaniels was hired as HC of the Denver Broncos in 2009 and fired in 2010? Are you saying when Brian becomes HC of Iowa that he'll be fired after 2 seasons because he wasn't prepared/successful to be HC? Let Iowa's HC gain the sufficient experience somewhere else and not be an on-the-job-HC (like Alford).

What? Is Brian going to rely on the 'expertise' of KF? UGH.

 

[mopkins]

Are you comparing the job trajectory of Josh McDaniels to Brian Ferentz 'cause McDaniels was hired as HC of the Denver Broncos in 2009 and fired in 2010? Are you saying when Brian becomes HC of Iowa that he'll be fired after 2 seasons because he wasn't prepared/successful to be HC? Let Iowa's HC gain the sufficient experience somewhere else and not be an on-the-job-HC (like Alford).

What? Is Brian going to rely on the 'expertise' of KF? UGH.

Not saying anything of the sort. I'm saying that Ferentz is just as experienced taking over the OC job at Iowa as McDaniels was taking over the OC job for the patriots. He might be more experienced even.

 

[deanvogs]

Some are gonna lose their minds over the newest GA for Iowa.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Some are gonna lose their minds over the newest GA for Iowa.

Who is it?

 

[Knight78]

Great post. Heck if I went back through all the OC around D1 football and NFL football, I'd bet a ton of them are no more "qualified" or even less "qualified" than they claim Brian is.

That is exactly what I did with my post. I didn't use all of D1, just the P5 conferences. If you go back and look, Thomas Brown at Miami (4), Sonnie Cumbie at TCU (3) and Brian Brohm Purdue (1) will all have less experience than Brian.

 

[HawkGold]

That is exactly what I did with my post. I didn't use all of D1, just the P5 conferences. If you go back and look, Thomas Brown at Miami (4), Sonnie Cumbie at TCU (3) and Brian Brohm Purdue (1) will all have less experience than Brian.

Show me winner programs currently that do that without co coaches or asst head coaches. Pretty I'll be Ok with BF. Or even Urban or Jim.

 

[HawkGold]

The real problem in getting better recruits is this. KF and offense is similar to an engineer with Asperger's asking a lady out on a date. It's really awkward.

 

[ShockHawk22]

Some are gonna lose their minds over the newest GA for Iowa.

If it's James or Steve, I might.

 

[HomerChampless]

Not saying anything of the sort. I'm saying that Ferentz is just as experienced taking over the OC job at Iowa as McDaniels was taking over the OC job for the patriots. He might be more experienced even.

You don't get it. Iowa is proposing to hire unproven coaches, again, similar to the head coaching hires of KF and Alford. Didn't Iowa get lucky with KF and not so lucky with Alford? Look, I know Alford had the pedigree of being in the Bobby Knight system. I know he had limited experience as HC of, I think, Missouri State. This didn't guarantee Alford would be a good HC at Iowa. Didn't guarantee Alford would've handled the Pierce situation any differently.

You mentioned that Josh McDaniels' coaching career path and Brian Ferentz's coaching career path took similar turns. That both candidates are similarly qualified. I point out that McDaniels spectacularly flamed out as HC of the Broncos in 2010. Sent him packing back to...you guessed it...the Patriots. Which leads anyone to conclude that McDaniels knows the Patriots system well and is benefited by the relationship of and the admiration of Bill Belichick the HC of the Patriots.

Similarly, Brian knows the Patriot system but only briefly as a coach. Brian has most of his coaching experience as a player, coach and son of KF. Brian doesn't have his own brand as coach. While Brian is OC or hired as HC at Iowa, he will carry the KF brand with him. Is that a good or bad thing? I'd say, getting to 7.5 wins a year will be a good bet but getting to a B1G Championship Game will be a bad bet.

 

[mopkins]

You don't get it. Iowa is proposing to hire unproven coaches, again, similar to the head coaching hires of KF and Alford. Didn't Iowa get lucky with KF and not so lucky with Alford? Look, I know Alford had the pedigree of being in the Bobby Knight system. I know he had limited experience as HC of, I think, Missouri State. This didn't guarantee Alford would be a good HC at Iowa. Didn't guarantee Alford would've handled the Pierce situation any differently.

You mentioned that Josh McDaniels' coaching career path and Brian Ferentz's coaching career path took similar turns. That both candidates are similarly qualified. I point out that McDaniels spectacularly flamed out as HC of the Broncos in 2010. Sent him packing back to...you guessed it...the Patriots. Which leads anyone to conclude that McDaniels knows the Patriots system well and is benefited by the relationship of and the admiration of Bill Belichick the HC of the Patriots.

Similarly, Brian knows the Patriot system but only briefly as a coach. Brian has most of his coaching experience as a player, coach and son of KF. Brian doesn't have his own brand as coach. While Brian is OC or hired as HC at Iowa, he will carry the KF brand with him. Is that a good or bad thing? I'd say, getting to 7.5 wins a year will be a good bet but getting to a B1G Championship Game will be a bad bet.

I just don't see how McDaniels failure as head coach in Denver has any relevance to the discussion at all. My point was that both coaches career trajectories were very similar up to the point where they became OC's of their respected teams.

Put it this way. A coach named "Mitch Connor" coaches the Patriots Tight Ends during the heyday of the Gronk/Hernandez two-headed monster. He then becomes the OL coach at Iowa and in 3 years wins a national OL of the year award. He then is named the OC at Iowa. Would you really have a problem with that? Sounds like a potential rising star to me.

I think most people are just hung up on the last name. Lets face it, Chip Kelly or Les Miles aren't coming to Iowa to be the OC. Having a young, talented and hungry OC is exactly what iowa needs after the Greg Davis debacle.

 

[GotTimDodge]

Under him the Patriot tight ends excelled.

Excelled so much he got promoted to...?

 

[JonDMiller]

Listening right now to your 1/19 podcast with Deace. Who in the hell scared you SO MUCH that it's causing you to REPEATEDLY defend the Brian Ferentz to OC move? Every time Deace makes a comment about the move....and they've all been spot on....you ask him to explain. WTF??? There is ZERO explanation needed for me on ANYTHING he has said....ESPECIALLY on how few Power 5 teams would even give Brian the time of day. You lose ALL CREDIBILITY when you say that this has nothing to do with nepotism, and more with being qualified. This program is a total joke, and for you to defend this move is laughable.

Here's the deal...I have addressed this more than a few times. I feel no need to address it again. Nobody 'got to me'. You can rip me for having a different opinion or one you don't like. But I am done with people questioning my motives. When I see this going forward, I will ban you from this website. Again, to be clear, you can rip me from stout to stern if you think I am wrong...but you won't be questioning my motives any longer around here.

 

[HawkInATX]

You don't get it. Iowa is proposing to hire unproven coaches, again, similar to the head coaching hires of KF and Alford. Didn't Iowa get lucky with KF and not so lucky with Alford? Look, I know Alford had the pedigree of being in the Bobby Knight system. I know he had limited experience as HC of, I think, Missouri State. This didn't guarantee Alford would be a good HC at Iowa. Didn't guarantee Alford would've handled the Pierce situation any differently.

You mentioned that Josh McDaniels' coaching career path and Brian Ferentz's coaching career path took similar turns. That both candidates are similarly qualified. I point out that McDaniels spectacularly flamed out as HC of the Broncos in 2010. Sent him packing back to...you guessed it...the Patriots. Which leads anyone to conclude that McDaniels knows the Patriots system well and is benefited by the relationship of and the admiration of Bill Belichick the HC of the Patriots.

Similarly, Brian knows the Patriot system but only briefly as a coach. Brian has most of his coaching experience as a player, coach and son of KF. Brian doesn't have his own brand as coach. While Brian is OC or hired as HC at Iowa, he will carry the KF brand with him. Is that a good or bad thing? I'd say, getting to 7.5 wins a year will be a good bet but getting to a B1G Championship Game will be a bad bet.

No, of course, you're absolutely right.. because Hayden Fry's coaching tree had so many duds among its assistants...

 

[JonDMiller]

Jon, brian was born to be the OC at Iowa? And you didn't like the Greg Davis marriage. But you don't mention at all why it took kirk 4 seasons to fire Davis. Perhaps it was because brian was born to be the OC, but maybe not ready for 4 years? And if brian is the only person that has the clout to stand up to kirk, then why do we want a tyrant as a coach? you spend your entire podcast describing that brian is the only person qualified to be OC because kirk is so inflexible that because brian can stand up to him, he'll be successful?

I do miss your critical thinking about the Iowa program. You made sense, then.

Translation: I Loved it when your opinions aligned with mine. Now, since they don't, you have been compromised somehow