Gil Brandt's Top 5 Senior QBs
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ATLHawkeye
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Former VP of player personnel for the Dallas Cowboys... What does he know? LOL
InGoodCo
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yeah, only 29 years in the NFL as a player personnel, in the HOF (for player personnel) - and was widely regarded as one of the best player personnel execs in the NFL during his time. 5 Super Bowl appearances - 20 winning seasons and is now considered an NFL draft expert. But ya know, there are some savants on here that want the back up and think Stanley won't hold a cup of coffee in the NFL.
52 TD's in an offense like Iowa in 2 years - I've been told it's no big deal, it must be.
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pootspot
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It’s about how he gets the yips when it matters and sails/terrible accuracy way to frequently for me to just love his numbers.
I hope he loses them both and puts up AA numbers but I’ve yet to see it. If (I hope not) it does them let’s give the backups some run to see what we have going forward.
Stanley to me has earned the right to lose it but I hope he plays up to his full abilities.
guffus
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It will be interesting how Shea Patterson does in Harbaugh's new up-tempo spread offense. As long as he does not fail miserably, that could help his draft status having run some very different style offenses.
If Iowa were to switch to a spread type offense, they would probably have to switch QB's.
If Iowa were to switch to a spread type offense, they would probably have to switch QB's.
Actually, Stanley chose not to go through the junior evaluation process. And the Oregon QB knew he would be a high first rounder, and he still chose to return to school.
guffus
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Ok fine, Stanley chose to not go through the junior evaluation process because he already knew he would not go high in the NFL draft.
WinOneThisCentury
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Stanley needs to improve accuracy and consistency...and perform in the clutch in the big moments. There are three or four big play opportunities in each game that can change the complexion of a game...and he needs to come up big in those moments. For example:
Penn State - Hockenson running clear by 15 yards after a fake on fourth and one...and Stanley overthrew him by 10 yards. That play was just a killer of momentum.
Penn State - On the goal line, call a time out or throw it away...but don't just throw it to the other team. He's your leader, he needs to read that situation and recognize late in the clock that they are not ready to execute a play. Fant never even turned around.
Wisconsin - Missed on several big third downs in the second half when we had a lead and could go down and get up by two scores. He had guys open and he missed them...and we couldn't keep the chains moving. Sure the fumbles hurt us, but we had opportunities to get up two scores late in the 3rd and we didn't get it done.
Penn State - Hockenson running clear by 15 yards after a fake on fourth and one...and Stanley overthrew him by 10 yards. That play was just a killer of momentum.
Penn State - On the goal line, call a time out or throw it away...but don't just throw it to the other team. He's your leader, he needs to read that situation and recognize late in the clock that they are not ready to execute a play. Fant never even turned around.
Wisconsin - Missed on several big third downs in the second half when we had a lead and could go down and get up by two scores. He had guys open and he missed them...and we couldn't keep the chains moving. Sure the fumbles hurt us, but we had opportunities to get up two scores late in the 3rd and we didn't get it done.
karras
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Stanley and Fant were amazing high school athletes.
Fant has the type of machismo where he wants to be on the field when the team needs a miracle. He's got that swagger which says, "Gimme the ball, I'm the guy whose gonna win this game for you."
I have watched every game from 2017/2018 this off-season and in every game there is at least one play (and usually more than that) where Stanley holds onto the ball too long. You can feel him questioning either his ability or the receivers. He would rather not make a play, than risk a mistake. The coaches don't want QBs who are gamblers or who let emotion take control of them. Stanley's size and arm will get him drafted. But he's not mobile like CJB/Banks and he's not fearless in the way of a Tate/Stanzi.
Having said all that, how much you wanna bet he leaves Iowa as the only QB other than Stanzi to win 3 consecutive bowl games?
RobHowe
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If Iowa switches to a spread, you know Kirk has been abducted by aliens and replaced by an extraterrestrial.
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DDThompson
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or maybe he just like college football and the college atmosphere.
Stanley plays nervous under pressure of a rush and when it is a big game.
To be fair, comparing "Bowl Game" victories one would need to rank them as to their importance and where they fall in line with the other 85 bowl games.
Is a Pinstripe win as valuable as a close loss to a great team on NY Day?
karras
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The main reason we can't make a comparison right now is because it hasn't happened. If it does we can revisit your observation.
Adam
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Well the fact that Stanley is going to the NFL neither substantiates nor denies the claim that 52 touchdowns is a swaying factor. My guess right now it's not. His frame and coaching is what has him projecting so well.
There will be lots of eyes on the young man this year. If he can throw for 26 TD's this year without the all world TE's then the numbers might start to become a boon. Stanley could easily play himself into the top rounds or right out of them. All the same he's a day 3 guy even if he sits out the year.
He has played pretty well considering he hasn't had above average WRs, nor has he had a competent running game to take pressure off of him. He hasn't been the type of QB to carry a team in big games, making others better, making those good decisions and executing.
And with two first round TEs on the team did he have an experienced enough OC to help integrate them into a winning system. Vanilla, avoid mistakes, the KF way was draped over him most of the year.
That said, playing under KF as a QB is kind of like trying to win a NASCAR race with a restrictor plate bogging down the engine or trying to enjoy a superbike with a rev limiter.
He has the size and talent to be a draft pick and with the right coaching and team, could be a great upgrade for a team. Can he learn to be calm under pressure, making key plays without giving away the big games that matter most? We will see. He has tended to be anxious and nervous in key moments. I hope he has an unbelievable year. It is difficult to find a more experienced college QB going into the season.
Wisconsin was not Stanley's fault. Not even close. Badgers stuffed it down our throats in 4th quarter. Defense folded when we needed them to stop. We had the lead in the 4th quarter, but yeah it is all Stanley's fault, just like every Patriot loss is on Tom Brady because the offense didn't score enough.
