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IowaBanker said:
Your attempted comparison of a fan drinking from the Stanley Cup and fans rushing the field just doesn't cut the mustard. I'm familiar with the tradition of players taking the Cup with them all over the world. If you happened to luck out and be in a position to drink from the Cup, then that's great. But it doesn't compare to rushing the field, simply because you are a fan. The two when used as analagies aren't even in the same stratosphere. It's not like you rushed the ice after they won the Stanley Cup, right?

Yes, as a fan that's passionate about the Hawkeyes, I understand your comments about feeling some sense of "ownership" of big moments. I've been present for plenty of them during the past decade or so. But again, that doesn't give you, or anyone else, the right to rush the field. The public address announcement is made at most home games asking fans to stay off the field, so it's obvious that the University doesn't want this action taking place. Your paid admission does not give you the right to enter the field; you have to play by their rules, not yours, because it's not your facility.

People certainly can get hurt by having thousands of people rushing the field at once. That's one reason why it shouldn't happen. But the biggest reason is that the University doesn't want you doing it. So why not just abide by their wishes?
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I'm pretty sure the University didn't "want" me to spend the night on the female floors of Rienow my freshman year but I did it anyway. I also highly doubt the University "wants" students to drink at all before entering Kinnick but everyone does it. In the heat of the moment, especially at the end of a HUGE win, I don't really think the first thought on my mind will be, "what does the University want me to do at this point". I'll just take my chances with the 20,000+ other fans since the University has never done anything to students who rush the field (just like they don't really do anything to students who sleep together in the dorms).

And I didn't say nobody could get hurt rushing the field. Clearly, there's a pretty substantial drop from the first row to field level, and if 250 Lb athletes in specially-designed protective gear can get hurt on the field so can a 120 Lb freshman girl. However, if personal safety is my concern, I won't be rushing the field. Kinda like mosh pits at a metal concert, if I don't want to be punched in the face (and I never do), I won't go to the pit. But I don't want a band's record label telling fans that mosh pits are outlawed at concerts.
 
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MidnightBlueSix said:
I'm pretty sure the University didn't "want" me to spend the night on the female floors of Rienow my freshman year but I did it anyway. I also highly doubt the University "wants" students to drink at all before entering Kinnick but everyone does it. In the heat of the moment, especially at the end of a HUGE win, I don't really think the first thought on my mind will be, "what does the University want me to do at this point". I'll just take my chances with the 20,000+ other fans since the University has never done anything to students who rush the field (just like they don't really do anything to students who sleep together in the dorms).

And I didn't say nobody could get hurt rushing the field. Clearly, there's a pretty substantial drop from the first row to field level, and if 250 Lb athletes in specially-designed protective gear can get hurt on the field so can a 120 Lb freshman girl. However, if personal safety is my concern, I won't be rushing the field. Kinda like mosh pits at a metal concert, if I don't want to be punched in the face (and I never do), I won't go to the pit. But I don't want a band's record label telling fans that mosh pits are outlawed at concerts.
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So you wouldn't have a problem with me coming over to your house, going inside, and running around to celebrate a victory by one of my favorite sports teams?
 
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IowaBanker

Does your drivers license give you permission to drive 61 in a 55? But do you? Did you ever have a beer under age? Ever? Come off your high horse. The expression "act like we have been there before" is nonsense. You can act like you have been there before, I will act like a happy excited fan. This is what uptight people do. I will look forward to fans rushing the field if they so choose, and I will laugh at you when you whine about it. Oh and FYI, I most likely will not rush the field, I never have, but I see nothing wrong with others chossing to do so. They can at their own risk.

Go Hawks!!
 


83Hawk said:
So you wouldn't have a problem with me coming over to your house, going inside, and running around to celebrate a victory by one of my favorite sports teams?
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Sure, come on by and give it a shot. My terrier will welcome you warmly. ;)
 




bec32173 said:
IowaBanker

Does your drivers license give you permission to drive 61 in a 55? But do you? Did you ever have a beer under age? Ever? Come off your high horse. The expression "act like we have been there before" is nonsense. You can act like you have been there before, I will act like a happy excited fan. This is what uptight people do. I will look forward to fans rushing the field if they so choose, and I will laugh at you when you whine about it. Oh and FYI, I most likely will not rush the field, I never have, but I see nothing wrong with others chossing to do so. They can at their own risk.

Go Hawks!!
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Oh brother.

This isn't about being perfect, and I never said that it was...which is a good thing, since none of us are.

The University is hosting an event, and simply by purchasing your ticket it does not give you the right to storm the field. Your ticket does not allow you to do that. It's not about me being "uptight" or "on a high horse" either. I simply am choosing to do what I've been asked to do, and would hope that others would do the same. But again, there's a certain element of people who choose to feel that they are above the rules. It's all about me and what I want to do, right?

You don't see big-time programs rushing the field after victories. We all want Iowa to be a big-time program, right? Rushing the field doesn't give that impression of acting like we're supposed to win. It's just not emblamatic of a top tier, classy program.

Go ahead and laugh at me if you want; I could care less.
 


The rushing or not rushing at the elite programs has as much to do with how the stadium is constructed as if you have been there before. Some stadiums have easy access Kinnick is one of them.
 


In my opinion, if you're a student, rushing the field is something you should experience at least once, even if it is frowned upon. If you're not a student (presently), you shouldn't rush the field. There's something not quite right about dudes in their late 30's acting like they're 18-22.

Just my two cents.
 


IowaBanker said:
Oh brother.

This isn't about being perfect, and I never said that it was...which is a good thing, since none of us are.

The University is hosting an event, and simply by purchasing your ticket it does not give you the right to storm the field. Your ticket does not allow you to do that. It's not about me being "uptight" or "on a high horse" either. I simply am choosing to do what I've been asked to do, and would hope that others would do the same. But again, there's a certain element of people who choose to feel that they are above the rules. It's all about me and what I want to do, right?

You don't see big-time programs rushing the field after victories. We all want Iowa to be a big-time program, right? Rushing the field doesn't give that impression of acting like we're supposed to win. It's just not emblamatic of a top tier, classy program.

Go ahead and laugh at me if you want; I could care less.
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I agree with this and cringe a little bit whenever I see Iowa fans storming the field in youthful exuberance. I wish they didn't but know they will.
 


IowaBanker said:
No, they don't belong on the field. Players, coaches, officials, and those with press passes do. No one else does, no matter how big the win is.

Players play. Coaches coach. Fans cheer. It's simple. I don't care if it's college, the pros, or a 7th grade game. Fans need to stay off of the field.

And for the record, I'm certainly not an "old fart". It's not a "tradition" either. Heck, whatever happened to the old adage "act like you've been there before."?
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Teams fan bases have been doing this for years and years! Are you kidding me...I think it's one of the coolest traditions out there....I couldn't imagine not being on the field after the PSU victory in 08. We as fans spend a crap load of money supporting our team and if we want to celebrate with the team after a giant win and don't get out of control it's fine. For you that are to old or d-bagish to rush the field head back to the 100k motor home and sip on your merlot and let the real fans show their pride. U gotta be kidding me...
 


I don't rush the field with any regularity. But I was down there after the Wisky win that made the Hawks surprise Big Ten Champs. Watched the trophy presentations. It was awesome, and sorry but anyone who wanted to be there belonged.
 


Scooonie said:
Teams fan bases have been doing this for years and years! Are you kidding me...I think it's one of the coolest traditions out there....I couldn't imagine not being on the field after the PSU victory in 08. We as fans spend a crap load of money supporting our team and if we want to celebrate with the team after a giant win and don't get out of control it's fine. For you that are to old or d-bagish to rush the field head back to the 100k motor home and sip on your merlot and let the real fans show their pride. U gotta be kidding me...
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Way to paint everyone with a broad brush.

I'm not too "old or d-bagish", I don't have a "100k motor home", and I don't drink wine. And I am a real fan, every bit as much as you or anyone else. Rushing the field doesn't make you any bigger of a fan that it does for those like me who celebrate in the stands (where we belong).

Just because you spend money supporting the team doesn't mean you have the right to rush the field. The two are not mutually inclusive.

Running onto the field, acting like you've accomplished something...sorry, but I don't see any cool tradition in that. It's rather juvenile behavior in my book.
 


IowaBanker said:
No, they don't belong on the field. Players, coaches, officials, and those with press passes do. No one else does, no matter how big the win is.

Players play. Coaches coach. Fans cheer. It's simple. I don't care if it's college, the pros, or a 7th grade game. Fans need to stay off of the field.

And for the record, I'm certainly not an "old fart". It's not a "tradition" either. Heck, whatever happened to the old adage "act like you've been there before."?
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I don't know if you've noticed, but Iowa fans, especially younger kids with their parents or older siblings, have ALWAYS gone down onto the field following EVERY win. Rushing the field is what happened after Penn State, and what WILL happen after Ohio State. But Iowa fans, especially younger ones as well as students, have always gone down on the field following a win or loss. I personally always go onto the field and make my way to the front of the band following every win and sing in heaven there is no beer with about 30 other people, unless it's a huge win, then it's hundreds. Get over yourself. Seriously.
 


It's quite literally gone on at every home game I can remember. I have missed 14, since 1984...all but one because I was doing my duty as a soldier in the United States Army....I'm not making this up.....every game, win or lose....have always greeted players and patted them on the back following a game.....along with probably thousands of other people.....When Hawkeyes talk about our "Great Fans"....I'm sure that has a little bit to do with it...it is a tradition at Kinnick. Don't try to tell me or anyone else it isn't.
 
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