Fry / Ferentz offense, what so different

[nilekinnick]

I have been around for both. Without going thru 45 years of stats most would lean towards Fry wither better O and Ferentz teams with better D.

Other than the standing TE of Fry, both wanted to establish a run. Have a mix of run and pass. But I don't see drastic changes in offensive philosophy.

QB's not meant to run in either, though some RPO in Iowa with Sullivan, Gronkowski

With Ferentz, miss Banks, Tate, Stanzi, Beathard ( always had Nate a 1/2 step lower ) . Fry had Long & Hartlieb , Rodgers in the hey day years.

Neither put many WR's into the NFL.

My own opinion, the Draw seemed to have more success with Fry. Both coaches have had some really good RB's.

Last 6 plus years being frustrating, ( Hawks not perceived as upper tier ), I lean to the QB being the biggest delta.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I see more differences than similarities. Both valued the tight end position and power I running. Both wore black and gold.

Fry's offense had the QB mostly under center. Iowa's offenses of late have a lot more shotgun.
Fry's passing game was more vertical.
Fry used a lot more gadget plays.
Fry did not sit on leads. He would score anytime he could.

 

[NCHawker]

Kirk has a blind spot when it comes to offense. That is a fact supported by years of emperical evidence.

He would never have put Brian in charge of the defense. But he was somehow ok with him as OC. why? Because he is defensive minded and will not compromise on defense.

Other coaches are the same way. I think Lincoln Riley, Mike Leach are two examples of coaches who will not compromise on offense. That guy at OU who was the DC at Clemson is like Ferentz.

 

[SCHawkeye2]

In general, I think Fry's (Snyder's) offense started with wider gaps on the OL spacing. This tended to make the defenses (of the era) have to spread out and created some natural gaps and openings in the line.
It was difficult for defenses to stuff the box with this wider spacing.
Of course the main difference was Fry's approach to take what the defense gave us. If they stacked the LoS with defenders, he would pass until the defense had to play honest. And vice versa.

Kirk is bound and determined to 'run the football' no matter the defense. No such thing as 'take what they give us'.
And our opponents know this.