Frost will be back next year (with major staff changes)

Fryowa said:
No way.

1) It's way funnier watching him get a very public spanking in the form of a $1M per year pay cut and buyout reduction.

2) He's not the guy who's going to put that tire fire out so I want to watch him and that program suffer for as long as possible.
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Agreed. I think he will do better as things progress. He has obviously won in the past and Nebbie has all the resources he needs to win. Nebbie is certainly do for some breaks. But, having followed his time at Nebbie, he is not a good HC. He is quick to blame everyone but himself, he is not humble, he is not detail oriented, he is not into discipline, he does not take responsibility, he is not high on accountability, and there is nothing inspiring about him as a person. He is also a dick.

Is he capable of winning 8-9 games? Sure. Will he put trophies in the case? Highly doubt it.
 
Wow,

Who could have seen this dumpster fire coming back in the day when Nebraska was mauling other teams 49 to 3 ish.

The wholesale changes at offense are suppose to change things? That has me scratching my head. Hold on for a second………… ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! ………… there I feel better now.

For any other school other than Alabama you could feel sorry for the fan base. Not Nebraska though. They were such a pompous ass fan base. Another ten years of suffering will do them some good. We could only hope the same for the Alabama fans too.
 
Fryowa said:
People WAY overstate this.

Scott Frost has one single winning season in his entire coaching history, and that was at a G5 school with players he didn't recruit.

If there was anyone not qualified to be a P5 head coach when he got hired it was Scott Frost.
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Disagree. A lot. Frost was one of the hottest OC coordinators in the country when he left Oregon and took the UCF gig. He almost won the Broyles award, coached a Heisman QB and Oregon played for a NC. He had three years as one of the best OC in the country.

He took over a UCF team that did not win a game the year before in a shitty conference. In his first year, he took them to a bowl game and in his second year he went 13-0. One would surmise the HC was the major change in variable there. Given that Hueppel took the team to the Fiesta Bowl the next year, I think we can assume Frost would have had a decent year if he stayed another season or two at UCF.

He had Power 5 options outside of Nebraska, and he should have. That is a pretty salty resume for a first time P5 head coach, and the fact that he was a Nebraska native made that hire not just a homerun, but a fucking grand slam.

He has sucked at Nebraska because of his hubris in bringing his Division II staff with him and not retooling his staff to compete in a real conference.
 
NCHawker said:
sometimes I think Scott Frost is simply recruiting a mini-me when he recruits quarterbacks.
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You mean a kid that can runs like a tailback, throws a knuckleball, turns the ball over, and gets his girlfriend beat up by the team's All-American running back? I guess I don't follow Martinez enough to draw a judgment here.....
 
NCHawker said:
Their offense devolved into a 1 man show. It makes sense to me. No need to blow up the whole program. I think this is the right move. It worked at Michigan and it makes sense to try it there too. Avoid the $20M buy out and let him build on the success that they've had (how they play).0

If they do to Iowa what Wisconsin did to Iowa it won't surprise me.
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A better comp would be Penn State - big defensive line, QB who can run and throw to a bunch of athletic WRs, bad traditional running game. Biggest difference might be special teams where Nebraska is awful.

If the game were tomorrow Iowa would be a 3-4 point dog. Unfortunately, we really need them to come out of the bye week strong and knock off Wisconsin.
 
Luftgekuehlt67 said:
If that ^^^ was the total picture, if I were a Fusker fan (or admin), I am frustrated but also thinking that next year could easily deliver much different (i.e. better) results.
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You have some very good points. As far as next year, unless they have another Martinez type player at QB (luke McCaffrey transferred I believe) they are going to regress on offense. Martinez can be a really good and dangerous qb running and throwing. They might lose 1500 yards of offense without him next year.

Oh, and Pelini was a head case and had a few circuits blown in his head.

I really think Nebby's AD Petersen and the boosters screwed the pooch getting rid of Solich who had won more games than devaney and osborne in the same number of years (yes more games played per year for Solich). I mean just a couple of years after being in the title game. The Nebby people should have given him 2 to 3 more years to see if he had the stuff to build it back to dominance.
 
Here is a snapshot of the UCF seasons around Frost's tenure. Personal opinion: too much was made of what Frost did there.

I'm not saying he's not a good coach. Going undefeated at any level of football is going to take good coaching. But it was sold to us as a miraculous turnaround - if you only look at 2015-17, you can easily believe that's the case. If you zoom out a bit...that program was really clicking under 3 different coaches.
 

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Luftgekuehlt67 said:
Here is a snapshot of the UCF seasons around Frost's tenure. Personal opinion: too much was made of what Frost did there.

I'm not saying he's not a good coach. Going undefeated at any level of football is going to take good coaching. But it was sold to us as a miraculous turnaround - if you only look at 2015-17, you can easily believe that's the case. If you zoom out a bit...that program was really clicking under 3 different coaches.
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I think UCF had two or maybe three really good recruiting classes. Like good enough to make a reasonable observer scratch his head. Part of it was I think Florida State actually implemented a compliance department at some point in there and we can see what that has done for them (natty champ contenders to losing record in the ACC in under a decade). But I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bag man involved as well because I think a few of the recruits had offers at the U. Maybe they were local and just wanted to play at UCF, though. Who knows? Spurrier had that happen at South Carolina. There was a really good high school class in state one year and they all were SC fans. I mean, if a dude like Jadaveon Clowney just walks through the door it sure doesn't hurt. You can get away with lucking into local talent in a place like Georgia, South Carolina or smack dab in the middle of Florida, but the problem at Nebraska is there are rarely really good D-1 players coming from your backyard and the really good ones will get poached by the SEC and the solid ones are all a battle with Iowa.
 
hawkfan2679 said:
One thing he has going for him is that the schedule sets up a little nicer for Nebraska in 2022.

@ Northwestern (in Dublin)
vs. North Dakota
vs. Georgia Southern
vs. Oklahoma (site TBD)
@ Rutgers
vs. Indiana
@ Michigan
vs. Minnesota
@ Wisconsin
vs. Purdue
vs. Illinois
@ Iowa

Crossovers are pretty tame save for the Michigan game, who they played tough this year...I have no idea what they have coming back, but if 6 wins/bowl eligibility is indeed the mark, it seems reachable. Ish.
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I see a dog fight for 5 wins. ND and Georgia Southern are good teams and will not be pushovers. A loss to Northwestern, Oklahoma, close game to Southern and this shit can snowball. At least I hope so...their road games are tough and home games against Minny, Purdue, and an improving Illini team are all going to have to be earned.
 
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