I guess, if my rationale is that of a loser, then so be it. I didn't bring Lick into the conversation, nor did I say that his results were comparable to the current coaches. As a fan that understands program building, one has to look at progress. Is progress being made? Yes. For that I am extremely happy. And yes, real coaches do compare where the program was and where they want it to go. (Am I really debating this?) Wowza!!!!