Former NW QB Shares why Cats are Besting the Hawks

Ok if you want to talk about the scores since Kirk arrived in 1999 Iowa has still out scored NW 333-251 that averages 28-21 so a touchdown ahead per game. No loss has been by more than 2 touchdowns, and 4 have been by 5 points or less. Iowa still has the advantage.
 
hwk23 said:
Me too. He should be on the short list of candidates when KF leaves. He's a good recruiter and he runs a style of offense that works. Wisconsin was always towards the top in scoring and rushing under Bielema.
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I thought the dude was a loose cannon when he fired his o-line coach a few games into the season, but they still made it to the Rose Bowl (albeit thanks to sanctions). I think that thumping they laid on Nebraska with a completely overhauled offense in one week was simply amazing. Though a blowout, one of the best football games I've seen in a while. I've got mad respect for the guy and I'm really glad he's not in the B1G anymore.
 
Hawknick said:
Ok if you want to talk about the scores since Kirk arrived in 1999 Iowa has still out scored NW 333-251 that averages 28-21 so a touchdown ahead per game. No loss has been by more than 2 touchdowns, and 4 have been by 5 points or less. Iowa still has the advantage.
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I don't care if the guy has outscored NU by a thousand points, he still has a terrible record against them, especially with Fitz at the helm and that is the subject of the thread.
 
I met Bielema multiple times when I was in high school and during camps at Iowa. Most people didn't like him because he's very direct and very straight to the point. That and the fact that he comes across as an arrogant a** at times. I like him because he knows his stuff and knows exactly what to say to get players to perform how they should.

As for his new time at Arkansas..I think he's going to do just fine. I just hope he takes over for Ferentz when he's done.
 
Hawknick said:
This thread is based on an untrue premise. Intact Iowa is pretty dominant in the series. Iowa wins 64% of the time (47-24-3). Iowa wins by an average of 11 points (25-14). Iowa also has won 14 bowl wins since 1949 to NW's 1. So this thread should be about how much better the Iowa program is than the NW program.
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Spitting into the wind, my man. I understand that anyone can manipulate numbers to fit an argument, but NW has pretty much owned Iowa lately. That may change this year if the offense can get their **** together, but for right now Fitz has Iowa's number.
 
Jjgoiowa11 said:
What? I sat in the second row of that game and we looked like a High school JV team. Our offense was embarrassing. At one point some parents of the Iowa players started jawing at each other and it got weird...a lot of the Iowa crowd left at half.
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Actually for everyone blasting me about last year's game look back at the box score-

It was only 14-3 at half time. We had one fumble at the Northwestern 28 and had a drive stall at the Northwestern 33 because of a delay of game. That's when Northwestern drove down and scored their 2nd TD to go up 14-3. We then answered by driving down to the Northwestern 23 right before half but Vandy got sacked and then completely under threw the receiver on 4th down. That is why the parents were probably jawing at each other because that last series was awful. Mark Weisman also got hurt in the 2nd and didn't play the rest of the game.

We opened up the 2nd half with a blocked punt which is why I said if you take out the block punt the game was a lot closer than people give us credit for. They did jump to a 28-3 lead in the third but we got it to 28-17 and then drove down to the Northwestern 24 with 1:44 left. Most Hawkeye fans probably left the stadium and missed this part of the game. Unfortunately we couldn't convert the 4th and 2. I believe we converted the play before but one of our backup OL got called for a penalty. I remember Brian Ferentz just going nuts on the official.

Obviously the Defense didn't play well and our Offense was pathetic, but at the end of the day we lost by 11 points to the best team ever at Northwestern. I think we can all agree that last year's Hawkeye Team was pretty bad but we have to remember that a lot of factors play into it (injuries/changing coordinators/transfers/etc).

I don't think we lost the game because of the game plan. I think we lost the game because we didn't execute the game plan! That happens when you are playing a lot of inexperienced players. Hopefully that changes this year and we give Northwestern a nice #### burger!!!!

Iowa Hawkeyes vs. Northwestern Wildcats - Recap - October 27, 2012 - ESPN
 
okeefe4prez said:
Our base defense only works against today's efficient spread offenses when we have a guy like Chad Greenway or AJ Edds (as an upperclassman) on the slot guy and a couple of stud d-linemen who can limit the time the QB has in the pocket. If we consistently had guys on par with Roth, Clayborn, Ballard and Babs cycling through on d-line and Edds (as an upperclassman) and Greenway cycling through as LBs, the base defense would be just fine. But we don't.
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When you have guys like the ones you mentioned, any base defense works. Of course when you have one of the best pass rushers in the nation, most coaches wouldn't use him to set the edge.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Our base defense only works against today's efficient spread offenses when we have a guy like Chad Greenway or AJ Edds (as an upperclassman) on the slot guy and a couple of stud d-linemen who can limit the time the QB has in the pocket. If we consistently had guys on par with Roth, Clayborn, Ballard and Babs cycling through on d-line and Edds (as an upperclassman) and Greenway cycling through as LBs, the base defense would be just fine. But we don't.
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So Iowa needs a pro-prospect or two on defense to be effective..... But doesn't Iowa have a hard time getting the recruits? Most Iowa fans, not you OKeef, think that's reasonable....
 
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ShadasRevenge said:
Spitting into the wind, my man. I understand that anyone can manipulate numbers to fit an argument, but NW has pretty much owned Iowa lately. That may change this year if the offense can get their **** together, but for right now Fitz has Iowa's number.
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Yep, and you could say the same types of things about Iowa vs. Iowa State. Historically, Iowa has dominated the series and is clearly the superior program. But... Ferentz has a losing record against ISU. That is another thing, along with losses to NW, Minnesota, Indiana and multiple losses against directional Michigan teams that sticks in my craw.

It's not so much a lack of success against OSU that bothers me (although it would be nice to be able to beat those guys every so often). Iowa had golden opportunities in 2009 & 10 to get that job done, and let it slip away both times.

As for Fitz vs. Ferentz - the head to head record tells me about as much as I need to know about that.
 
thecaptain said:
Actually for everyone blasting me about last year's game look back at the box score-

It was only 14-3 at half time. We had one fumble at the Northwestern 28 and had a drive stall at the Northwestern 33 because of a delay of game. That's when Northwestern drove down and scored their 2nd TD to go up 14-3. We then answered by driving down to the Northwestern 23 right before half but Vandy got sacked and then completely under threw the receiver on 4th down. That is why the parents were probably jawing at each other because that last series was awful. Mark Weisman also got hurt in the 2nd and didn't play the rest of the game.

We opened up the 2nd half with a blocked punt which is why I said if you take out the block punt the game was a lot closer than people give us credit for. They did jump to a 28-3 lead in the third but we got it to 28-17 and then drove down to the Northwestern 24 with 1:44 left. Most Hawkeye fans probably left the stadium and missed this part of the game. Unfortunately we couldn't convert the 4th and 2. I believe we converted the play before but one of our backup OL got called for a penalty. I remember Brian Ferentz just going nuts on the official.

Obviously the Defense didn't play well and our Offense was pathetic, but at the end of the day we lost by 11 points to the best team ever at Northwestern. I think we can all agree that last year's Hawkeye Team was pretty bad but we have to remember that a lot of factors play into it (injuries/changing coordinators/transfers/etc).

I don't think we lost the game because of the game plan. I think we lost the game because we didn't execute the game plan! That happens when you are playing a lot of inexperienced players. Hopefully that changes this year and we give Northwestern a nice #### burger!!!!

Iowa Hawkeyes vs. Northwestern Wildcats - Recap - October 27, 2012 - ESPN
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Yuuuup, nailed it. That was an awkward halftime one row behind me. Northwestern has an absolute dump of a stadium tho...holy shhmokes. Their announcer and music blaring literally right up until the Hawks snapped the ball was bush league...
 
Sparky said:
I hate seeing that video. Bieiema knew Ferentz well enough to know he would never expect a fake punt, mostly because a fake anything would never cross Ferentz's mind. Play it safe, don't expect surprises, chomp chomp chomp. That's Kirk's game plan.

Another thought. With Wisconsin at their own 25 yard line why not go for a block and seal the deal if they happened to block it? Then there's almost no chance of them succeeding if they were to run the fake.
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Not that it doesn't fall on the head coach but the players are taught not to turn and run until the ball is kicked. As you can clearly see they all turned and ran before the punter that I'm guessing runs like OK4P took off.
 
hoffahawk said:
Not that it doesn't fall on the head coach but the players are taught not to turn and run until the ball is kicked. As you can clearly see they all turned and ran before the punter that I'm guessing runs like OK4P took off.
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Very true. Then again maybe Chompers was just playing it safe with the lead. I'm a fan of always attacking until the game is over so it makes me somewhat bias.
 
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