Former Huskers: New Hire a Fail
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ColumbusHawk
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Remember Stormin's initial reaction to McCaffery was fire Barta. Sorry, Stormin' but I had to bring that up.
DodgerHawki
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I guess I'm not sure....
what they were expecting. Did they expect to hire a current head coach at a winning school from a power conference? Why are those coaches going to leave that job for Nebraska? And don't say because of facilities.
Bo Ryan had a history of Division II success and then two years at UW-Milwaukee before going to UW-Madison. Izzo was an assistant only before taking over for Heathcote. There are good coaches everywhere, the key is finding the right guy for the job. Very few schools can pluck coaches from winning programs in power conferences. Iowa isn't a school that can, and Nebraska certainly isn't.
what they were expecting. Did they expect to hire a current head coach at a winning school from a power conference? Why are those coaches going to leave that job for Nebraska? And don't say because of facilities.
Bo Ryan had a history of Division II success and then two years at UW-Milwaukee before going to UW-Madison. Izzo was an assistant only before taking over for Heathcote. There are good coaches everywhere, the key is finding the right guy for the job. Very few schools can pluck coaches from winning programs in power conferences. Iowa isn't a school that can, and Nebraska certainly isn't.
There is no exact formula for selecting a new head coach. It is a crapshoot,and at a program like Nebraska,with no tradition in bb, chances of failure are very high.
I get what these guys are saying...Miles looks a lot like Sadler,Collier ect...only Nee looked a bit different. He is saying that Miles is not a hail mary like maybe a Reggie Theus....a recruiter/coach vs a coachie coach...a la Lick. I understand that sentiment.
I get what these guys are saying...Miles looks a lot like Sadler,Collier ect...only Nee looked a bit different. He is saying that Miles is not a hail mary like maybe a Reggie Theus....a recruiter/coach vs a coachie coach...a la Lick. I understand that sentiment.
ColumbusHawk
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Re: I guess I'm not sure....
Exactly!
Actually, Bo was a Division III coach at Plateville for over a decade with two years at the Division I powerhouse UW-Milwaukee where he had a losing record in the Horizon League. Yet, Bo Ryan has never finished lower than fourth in the conference & has won over seventy percent of his games in the Big Ten.
About the only criticism against Ryan is that the Badgers have never made the Final Four. Yet, again, it is thirty-two years & counting since Iowa last made the Final Four. Further, he has won three Big Ten titles. In contrast, in the twenty-nine seasons since Lute left, the Hawks have seriously challenged for the Big Ten title only twice.
It is hard to fathom, but Iowa only has played past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament three times in the last twenty-nine seasons.
Exactly!
Actually, Bo was a Division III coach at Plateville for over a decade with two years at the Division I powerhouse UW-Milwaukee where he had a losing record in the Horizon League. Yet, Bo Ryan has never finished lower than fourth in the conference & has won over seventy percent of his games in the Big Ten.
About the only criticism against Ryan is that the Badgers have never made the Final Four. Yet, again, it is thirty-two years & counting since Iowa last made the Final Four. Further, he has won three Big Ten titles. In contrast, in the twenty-nine seasons since Lute left, the Hawks have seriously challenged for the Big Ten title only twice.
It is hard to fathom, but Iowa only has played past the first weekend of the NCAA tournament three times in the last twenty-nine seasons.
I think what dismays the Nebraska fans the most is this coaching change could be seen coming down the tracks for months. By Mid January the local radio talking heads were predicting Sadler to be gone at season's end. By the first of February, the debate was not IF he would be fired, but would it happen mid season.
So, naturally, with the fans and everyone outside the program talking about it, it was assumed, the administration was on the same train, and was out looking for a new coach.
Obviously, that did not happen, as Nebraska seemed to be a rudderless boat searching for a new coach. I mean ... Ben Howland??? Really? But, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.
So, naturally, with the fans and everyone outside the program talking about it, it was assumed, the administration was on the same train, and was out looking for a new coach.
Obviously, that did not happen, as Nebraska seemed to be a rudderless boat searching for a new coach. I mean ... Ben Howland??? Really? But, I guess it doesn't hurt to ask.
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DodgerHawki
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It really doesn't matter how long the school has to look...
it comes down to what type of job it is and what coach you can attract. Illinois got turned down by Shaka Smart, who has been coaching (with a lot of success) at VCU. But that's no guarantee he'd succeed at Illinois, yet he was one of the hot names out there. At places like Nebraska (and plenty of other power conference schools) you just aren't going to hire a guy that's currently winning in a power conference? What incentive does that coach have to leave? Yes, you can throw a pile of money but if a coach is at a power conference school he's already being compensated well. And why go through the hassle of building something when you already have it built where you are currently?
it comes down to what type of job it is and what coach you can attract. Illinois got turned down by Shaka Smart, who has been coaching (with a lot of success) at VCU. But that's no guarantee he'd succeed at Illinois, yet he was one of the hot names out there. At places like Nebraska (and plenty of other power conference schools) you just aren't going to hire a guy that's currently winning in a power conference? What incentive does that coach have to leave? Yes, you can throw a pile of money but if a coach is at a power conference school he's already being compensated well. And why go through the hassle of building something when you already have it built where you are currently?
sportstalent
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He wasn't the only one, I am just glad to eat crow on that one.
HawkeyeShane
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My crow eating came when I insisted that Lick was going to get another year and that he should get that year...
The dessert was, holy crap, I was glad he was gone after it went down...
The dessert was, holy crap, I was glad he was gone after it went down...
Tmoney12
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Everytime someone bumps a thread from the lick/Fran transition I get nervous. I know I was ready for lick to go. However, I don't remember my initial thoughts on Fran.
HawkeyeShane
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I do...and here they ARE!
www.imported_Tmoney12shorriblecommentsaboutFran.com
Edit: You're lucky I'm too lazy to REALLY look them up...
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trj
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Caught part of intro press conference on the Big Ten network and it reminded me a lot of McCaffrey press conference. I did not know that Nebby was getting a new state of the art arena which is a helpful little recruiting tool. Maybe they catch lightning in a bottle with Miles.