Former Hawkeyes Come to Chris Doyle’s Defense

You know. I hear these idiots on TV blasting Iowa and paying him that much $$$$. It shows the commitment that Iowa has to the program. They state that Iowa has nothing to show for it and if paying that much better get results. For the style of program Iowa is, they get terrific results.

The thing is that for Iowa to be committed to excellence and for consistency, they have to pay top performers that much to keep them at Iowa. With the success Doyle has had, he could have and could go to many places, college or pro. It is just the way it works. Pay up for retention of specialized staff! Comes down to that. So screw these idiots in the media. They should really be talking about how Iowa is investing in their program and striving to keep consistency.
 
Hi Rob, who wrote the second entry? No name associated with it and it's probably the best one on there. Thanks.

EDIT: I see it's all Mitch King......figures. Well said.
 
thawks1 said:
A Michigan man is the one who started it but I notice he never said anything about the salaries that Michigan is paying their coaches.
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Michigan always had the mind set that they didn't have to pay a big salary because they were after all MICHIGAN. Coaches would flock to them just because they were MICHIGAN. Well I think after learning that just being MICHIGAN wasn't getting it done along with a rabid fan base demanding greatness the AD finally wrote some BIG checks.
 
Iowa football carries the load of Iowa athletics, and the coaches are responsible for the success of the Iowa football program. A program that has brought in hundreds of millions of dollars into the athletic department and millions of dollars into many of its players who have gone on into professional sports or into coaching.

What should be at question is the low wages that many professionals in our society who play a vital role in serving all of us. Many put themselves at risk each day serving their communities or play a vital role in the futures of our young peolple. Law enforcement officers, firemen, nurses, teachers, EMT personnel, our military personnel, just to name a few. Many making less than one tenth of what professional athletes and coaches make. It doesn't speak well of our society and the things we value.

So let the coaches and players have what the market will allow, but we need to show more appreciation and generosity towards those who play a much more vital role in serving each of us everyday.
 
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BigD said:
Iowa football carries the liad of Iowa athletics, and the coaches are responsible for the success of Iowa football program. A program that has brought in hundred of millions of dollars into the athletic department and millions of dollars into many of its players who have gone on into professional sports or into coaching.

What should be at question is the low wages that many professionals in our society who play a vital role in serving all of us. Many put themselves at risk each day serving their communities or play a vital role in the futures of our young peolple. Law enforcement officers, firemen, nurses, teachers, EMT personnel, our military personnel, just to name a few. Many making less than one tenth of what professional athletes and coaches make. It doesn't speak well of our society and the things we value.

So let the coaches and players have what the market will allow, but we need to show more appreciation and generosity towards those who play a much more vital role in serving each of us everyday.
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That all sounds good but where does that extra money come from?
 
Desmond Howard is a Cowherd wannabe. He just throws out stupid garbage to see if it takes off. I'd hate to think of where Iowa football would be without Doyle. Maybe that's why he gets paid so much?
 
I will submit my usual question: How many of you have said, "That guy makes too much money!" Now, how many of you have said "Geez. I make too much money for what I do!"
 
PCHawk said:
That all sounds good but where does that extra money come from?
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Well since the federal reserve likes to print imoney up out of thin air they should have no problem helping out. It doesn't seem to bother the fed one bit that they have been putting eight billion dollars into the stock market every month to hold it up and keep it from collapsing. When I first heard about this I rolled my eyes and thought these conspiracy theorist just won't quit with their stupidity. Then one night it was on the national news networks and I was just stunned.

It's a good thing we have forms of entertainment like sports and politics to keep our minds off of these things and keep us divided as a people.
 
RobHowe said:
Not that they needed to...

http://hawkeyenation.com/football/former-hawkeyes-come-chris-doyles-defense
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I would venture to say we have one of the premier strength and conditioning programs in college football. I think it's fair to say if you have the premier coach in college football in that role that it is appropriate pay.

It is a little disingenuous to assume that Iowa getting scored on by Michigan State on the last drive was a direct result of something lacking in the strength program as opposed to other things going on down on the field like match ups or defensive schemes. I think it is interesting that a lot of men don't like listening to women talk about sports on TV (the underlying assumption being they didn't do it so they couldn't have as informed of an opinion) and that woman had better takes on this topic and more informed opinions on this topic than the two former athletes.
 
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BigD said:
Iowa football carries the load of Iowa athletics, and the coaches are responsible for the success of the Iowa football program. A program that has brought in hundreds of millions of dollars into the athletic department and millions of dollars into many of its players who have gone on into professional sports or into coaching.

What should be at question is the low wages that many professionals in our society who play a vital role in serving all of us. Many put themselves at risk each day serving their communities or play a vital role in the futures of our young peolple. Law enforcement officers, firemen, nurses, teachers, EMT personnel, our military personnel, just to name a few. Many making less than one tenth of what professional athletes and coaches make. It doesn't speak well of our society and the things we value.

So let the coaches and players have what the market will allow, but we need to show more appreciation and generosity towards those who play a much more vital role in serving each of us everyday.
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Don't worry man, whoever you vote for anymore will gladly take more and more of the tax payers dollars, and spread it out amongst their cronies.....errrrrr the people.
 
I can't say whether it's too much or not. I mean.....it probably is. They're all probably paid too much.
But, that'd be the argument, not that the strength and conditioning guy is paid too much. He's paid appropriately relative to the rest of the staff when you consider his tenure and the pretty inarguable success he's credited with.

I've always thought of him as the secret weapon and a huge reason for our continued 'success' (relative to most of the rest of the Big 10). Kinda legendary...like the pink locker room. Something everybody who knows college football whispers about, and periodically gets talked about by the broadcasters covering the game....or an occasional article or two. But only people who really pay attention to football, and the Hawkeyes understand that it goes way beyond a pink locker room.

1. I can't believe we still have him. I can't believe another college didn't come along and lure him with money. Well, they didn't, because Iowa saw the value and kept paying for it.
2. I can't believe some pro team hasn't just reached into their pockets and paid for it. Seems to me, having watched enough Hard Knocks, that his value to a pro team could almost be quantifiable based on minutes played, yards allowed/yards gained, points allowed in the 4th quarter/etc.

His pay relative to others in the NCAA....measured against their coaching staffs...should be significantly higher. I daresay you'd get a lot of Hawk fans, even, who would say Farentz is way overpaid......and might be willing to say that Doyle is still underpaid.
 
dagdaj said:
I can't say whether it's too much or not. I mean.....it probably is. They're all probably paid too much.
But, that'd be the argument, not that the strength and conditioning guy is paid too much. He's paid appropriately relative to the rest of the staff when you consider his tenure and the pretty inarguable success he's credited with.

I've always thought of him as the secret weapon and a huge reason for our continued 'success' (relative to most of the rest of the Big 10). Kinda legendary...like the pink locker room. Something everybody who knows college football whispers about, and periodically gets talked about by the broadcasters covering the game....or an occasional article or two. But only people who really pay attention to football, and the Hawkeyes understand that it goes way beyond a pink locker room.

1. I can't believe we still have him. I can't believe another college didn't come along and lure him with money. Well, they didn't, because Iowa saw the value and kept paying for it.
2. I can't believe some pro team hasn't just reached into their pockets and paid for it. Seems to me, having watched enough Hard Knocks, that his value to a pro team could almost be quantifiable based on minutes played, yards allowed/yards gained, points allowed in the 4th quarter/etc.

His pay relative to others in the NCAA....measured against their coaching staffs...should be significantly higher. I daresay you'd get a lot of Hawk fans, even, who would say Farentz is way overpaid......and might be willing to say that Doyle is still underpaid.
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I think Iowa has been kind of lucky that he is the age where he has children in school. I think they enjoy Iowa City and wanted their children to go thru school here. After the children get through school, who knows. I think his youngest is around 16. Will see if he goes onto another place or NFL after a couple years. Hope not.
 
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