For those who think Iowa is a "lock" for the NCAAs

tweeterhawk

tweeterhawk

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I would encourage you to lock up the sharp knives and any weapons you might own; stay away from high windows and surround yourselves with friends and loved ones as the NCAA brackets are read this afternoon. I am very dubious about the Hawks making it to the dance this year.

The season that once looked so promising totally collapsed in the final seven games. A record of 1-6 with a quick exit from the BTT -- to Northwestern, of all teams -- will not impress the selection committee. And it would not surprise me if the NCAA wanted to send a message to Gary Barta and Fran McCaffery for McCaffery to clean up his act next year by doing no favors to a bubble Iowa team.

USA Today has us one of the last five teams in, likely putting Iowa in a play-in bracket. It could be a brutal afternoon; for those waiting to get good news, please keep things in perspective and do not harm anyone, pets or yourself if your expectations are not met.

USA TODAY Sports' NCAA tournament Bracketology
 
Bigtenchamp said:
you realized the link you posted had us in the tournament... like 99% of the other sites?
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Here is the thing though...is the "play-in" really a tournament bid? IF you win that game you are in the tournament...that's why it is called a "PLAY-IN". As someone else said...if we consider that part of the tournament...couldn't we now say that all of the conference tournaments are "play-in"?

It's an interesting question I guess...
 
SonofaSailor said:
Here is the thing though...is the "play-in" really a tournament bid? IF you win that game you are in the tournament...that's why it is called a "PLAY-IN". As someone else said...if we consider that part of the tournament...couldn't we now say that all of the conference tournaments are "play-in"?

It's an interesting question I guess...
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oh my gosh, seriously? How many more threads do I have to put this in?

The NCAA Tournament is a field of 68, not a field of 64 with 4 "play in" games. The first 4 games is officially "in" the tournament as recognized by the NCAA. I can see where you can call conference tournaments "play in" because for most teams in division 1 that is the only way they can get into the NCAA tournament. But once you are in the field of 68 it does not matter if you play in the first round or 2nd round, they are all tournament games.
 
ssckelley said:
oh my gosh, seriously? How many more threads do I have to put this in?

The NCAA Tournament is a field of 68, not a field of 64 with 4 "play in" games. The first 4 games is officially "in" the tournament as recognized by the NCAA. I can see where you can call conference tournaments "play in" because for most teams in division 1 that is the only way they can get into the NCAA tournament. But once you are in the field of 68 it does not matter if you play in the first round or 2nd round, they are all tournament games.
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Come on...the "First round" stuff is BS...so you're saying that it's the first round...just some teams get a "bye"? And by "some" we are talking about 94% of the field...

It's a play in to get into the real tournament...
 
SonofaSailor said:
Come on...the "First round" stuff is BS...so you're saying that it's the first round...just some teams get a "bye"? And by "some" we are talking about 94% of the field...

It's a play in to get into the real tournament...
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If it is BS, it's official BS. You might not like it, but the NCAA considers all 68 teams as NCAA tournament participants.
 
SonofaSailor said:
Come on...the "First round" stuff is BS...so you're saying that it's the first round...just some teams get a "bye"? And by "some" we are talking about 94% of the field...

It's a play in to get into the real tournament...
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It is not BS, it is expansion and the NCAA is not done. So those of you that keep wanting to tear down the first round games and say they are "play in" are in denial and as the NCAA keeps expanding your claims of the first round being "play in" will look more and more ridicules. Those games are officially known as the "First Four" and the are officially the first round of the NCAA tournament.

Back in 1983 (52 teams) and 1984 (53 teams) they had a "preliminary round" with play in games. It was not until 1985 they had 64 teams in the NCAA tournament. It would be silly for some old guy to keep saying the (now) 2nd round games being called "play in".
 
ssckelley said:
It is not BS, it is expansion and the NCAA is not done. So those of you that keep wanting to tear down the first round games and say they are "play in" are in denial and as the NCAA keeps expanding your claims of the first round being "play in" will look more and more ridicules. Those games are officially known as the "First Four" and the are officially the first round of the NCAA tournament.

Back in 1983 (52 teams) and 1984 (53 teams) they had a "preliminary round" with play in games. It was not until 1985 they had 64 teams in the NCAA tournament. It would be silly for some old guy to keep saying the (now) 2nd round games being called "play in".
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Ok, well then put me on record...if they expand the NCAA tournament further...they might as well just call the whole thing off...it will be a joke.

Teams with losing conference records will be making it...
 
SonofaSailor said:
Here is the thing though...is the "play-in" really a tournament bid? IF you win that game you are in the tournament...that's why it is called a "PLAY-IN". As someone else said...if we consider that part of the tournament...couldn't we now say that all of the conference tournaments are "play-in"?

It's an interesting question I guess...
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Fans and media call it a play in game. The NCAA calls it an opening round game. Once the "real" tournament starts on Thursday, that is considered round 2. So it most certainly is an NCAA tournament game, and if you win, you get credit for winning an NCAA tournament game. That all being said, I don't want anything to do with playing in this, so I really hope we are safely in. I'm hoping for a Friday afternoon game personally. Joe Lunardi, Jerry Palm, Sporting News, Yahoo, and CNNSI all have us in and NOT in a play in game. I really think BYU and Dayton are locks for the play in game. I think one of Nebraska, SMU, Tennessee or Xavier will get the other 2.
 
SonofaSailor said:
Ok, well then put me on record...if they expand the NCAA tournament further...they might as well just call the whole thing off...it will be a joke.

Teams with losing conference records will be making it...
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I am sure there are people from the 70's and 80's that thought expanding the tournament to 64 was a joke as well.

You still listening to those 8 track tapes or have you moved on to cassette?
 
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