Flush the Ferentzs

I don't get people with the mind set of that they are just happy and content with Kirk and just winning 6,7,8 games a year. I want 10-12 wins a year and playing in the Big 10 title game in Indy. Then I have friends who say, "well, who could we get to be our next coach? We could end up like Illinois."
 
83Hawk said:
Oh, I don’t really fret over it. It is just a depressing thought. Then again, I also remember going to Hawkeye games in the ‘60s and ‘70s where they got their rear ends kicked on a regular basis.
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I would give my left nut to be a die hard hawk football fan in the late 50’s after they invent a time machine. My dad named me after Álex Karras. His favorite hawk player of all time
 
Fryowa said:
I’m 38, and no male on my dad’s side going back two generations has made 60. I’m lucky, I only got 20 more years left of this shit show tops.
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Time does go fast. I'm 53. On the golf course of life I'm staring down the thirteenth fairway and pulling the driver out of the bag.
 
As others have stated, it always seems like whenever the fan base has had enough of Kirk, he pulls a magical season out of his ass. It will be interesting to see what happens next season.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
As others have stated, it always seems like whenever the fan base has had enough of Kirk, he pulls a magical season out of his ass. It will be interesting to see what happens next season.
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Schedule is a lot tougher next season. Losing a dozen or more combined starters. I'd place the odds at 50/1 on next season being one of KF's "miracle seasons".
 
lightning1 said:
Schedule is a lot tougher next season. Losing a dozen or more combined starters. I'd place the odds at 50/1 on next season being one of KF's "miracle seasons".
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By "interesting" I wasn't implying that it will happen. What I meant is that it will get interesting if it does or does not happen. If it does, a large portion of the fan base will come back around. If he has two shit-show seasons in a row, the torches and pitchforks will come out.

I agree, though. I doubt it will happen, but having a tough schedule is kind of what makes it "magical" in the first place. Historically, that's been his M.O.
 
EstronHawkKing said:
I don't get people with the mind set of that they are just happy and content with Kirk and just winning 6,7,8 games a year. I want 10-12 wins a year and playing in the Big 10 title game in Indy. Then I have friends who say, "well, who could we get to be our next coach? We could end up like Illinois."
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Is that even realistic? What programs average 10-12 wins a year? As of late you could count those teams on one hand. Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma. That's blue-blood rarefied air - something Iowa is not and will never be.

And where have some of the "typical" blue-bloods been as of late? Texas, USC, UCLA, Michigan, and Notre Dame etc. have long not averaged 10-12 wins a season.

Maybe it's time to hitch your wagon to one of those other-world donkeys if those number of yearly wins are your expectations.
 
HawkU said:
Is that even realistic? What programs average 10-12 wins a year? As of late you could count those teams on one hand. Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma. That's blue-blood rarefied air - something Iowa is not and will never be.

And where have some of the "typical" blue-bloods been as of late? Texas, USC, UCLA, Michigan, and Notre Dame etc. have long not averaged 10-12 wins a season.

Maybe it's time to hitch your wagon to one of those other-world donkeys if those number of yearly wins are your expectations.
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Loser talk. If you don’t aspire to greatness, you will never achieve it.
 
HawkU said:
Is that even realistic? What programs average 10-12 wins a year? As of late you could count those teams on one hand. Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State and Oklahoma. That's blue-blood rarefied air - something Iowa is not and will never be.

And where have some of the "typical" blue-bloods been as of late? Texas, USC, UCLA, Michigan, and Notre Dame etc. have long not averaged 10-12 wins a season.

Maybe it's time to hitch your wagon to one of those other-world donkeys if those number of yearly wins are your expectations.
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Clemson has never been considered a "blue blood" program. Wisconsin has won 10 games, 7 out of the last 10 years. And one 9 win season in there as well. People refuse to even consider it's possible, in spite of recent evidence to the contrary.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
By "interesting" I wasn't implying that it will happen. What I meant is that it will get interesting if it does or does not happen. If it does, a large portion of the fan base will come back around. If he has two shit-show seasons in a row, the torches and pitchforks will come out.

I agree, though. I doubt it will happen, but having a tough schedule is kind of what makes it "magical" in the first place. Historically, that's been his M.O.
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Not sure about that. Even with a 10+ win season next year BF would be a hard sell as the next head coach. If you are in the Ferentz family this season was a setback. It probably added another year or 2 of Kirk sticking around just to "get this right" in order to pass this on to his son.
 
Hawkeyes5 said:
Well I have a new theory that KF doesn't care about wins and losses, he cares about how many guys he sends to the NFL. Yeah he has done that, but truly who gives a frog's Fat @$$? He's paid to win games at the U of I and play your best players who will give you and your team and those dudes who committed to this program the best opportunity to win a game!!! Period.... if Noah Fant gave Sir KF a piece of his mind... seriously who cares?? At least he is passionate about winning. I don't see any emotion from our leader.....
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The dude literally cries everytime we win. Saying he has no emotion is dumb and a lie.

Want Ferentz gone? Ok I'm with ya. No need to make up lies. It's enough to just say the guy can't get the job done.
 
83Hawk said:
Loser talk. If you don’t aspire to greatness, you will never achieve it.
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There's nothing wrong with aspiring to greatness but what does that greatness look like? It's different for every program. And however it is defined it happens as a progression.

Since 1899, when Iowa started playing football, the program's career winning percentage is 52.2%. That's a sample size of almost 120 years. In today's world that is 6.26 wins per year. Let those numbers simmer for a bit.

KF is not much better at 59.6% win rate or 7.15 wins per year.

The tricky part of goals is for them to be a stretch yet still achievable. For people to come on here all foaming at the mouth about far out expectations, when history shows otherwise, is laughable.

Maybe we should start averaging 8 or 9 wins before we expect 10-12. And that would include a wholesale change of leadership from Barta on down.

At the end of the day it also boils down to how far are you willing to go for those 10-12 wins. Like it or not college athletics is a dirty game. Listen to the Washed-up Walkons talk about recruits getting back to their hotel rooms after an official visit only to find a fat stack of cash waiting for them.
 
trj said:
Not sure about that. Even with a 10+ win season next year BF would be a hard sell as the next head coach. If you are in the Ferentz family this season was a setback. It probably added another year or 2 of Kirk sticking around just to "get this right" in order to pass this on to his son.
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I get what you are saying, but, my post had nothing to do with BF as the next coach. Simply pointing out that Kirk seems to always pull a rabbit out of his hat when things look the worst. At the other end of the spectrum, if Iowa looks bad or worse next year, the negativity will be some of the worst he and Barta have experienced in their tenures. Any goodwill that was built up with the '09 and '15 seasons will be long gone.
 
#1DieHardHawk said:
I get what you are saying, but, my post had nothing to do with BF as the next coach. Simply pointing out that Kirk seems to always pull a rabbit out of his hat when things look the worst. At the other end of the spectrum, if Iowa looks bad or worse next year, the negativity will be some of the worst he and Barta have experienced in their tenures. Any goodwill that was built up with the '09 and '15 seasons will be long gone.
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I get what you are saying I am just looking at it from a big picture perspective.
 
HawkU said:
There's nothing wrong with aspiring to greatness but what does that greatness look like? It's different for every program. And however it is defined it happens as a progression.

Since 1899, when Iowa started playing football, the program's career winning percentage is 52.2%. That's a sample size of almost 120 years. In today's world that is 6.26 wins per year. Let those numbers simmer for a bit.

KF is not much better at 59.6% win rate or 7.15 wins per year.

The tricky part of goals is for them to be a stretch yet still achievable. For people to come on here all foaming at the mouth about far out expectations, when history shows otherwise, is laughable.

Maybe we should start averaging 8 or 9 wins before we expect 10-12. And that would include a wholesale change of leadership from Barta on down.

At the end of the day it also boils down to how far are you willing to go for those 10-12 wins. Like it or not college athletics is a dirty game. Listen to the Washed-up Walkons talk about recruits getting back to their hotel rooms after an official visit only to find a fat stack of cash waiting for them.
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Nobody is expecting averaging 10+ wins.

KF and his agent negotiated a 5m contract in 2009. Expectations raised for everyone. 2015 is the only year since then that have been great,

90m stadium addition. 70m football facility - one of the best in B1G. Salaries among the tops in the conference.

KF and his kid had the table totally set again for Iowa this year, and they shit the bed.

Last week against NU, coaching staff totally lost and outschemed again.

Time to stop stealing from the fan base.
 
SidFarkas said:
Nobody is expecting averaging 10+ wins.

KF and his agent negotiated a 5m contract in 2009. Expectations raised for everyone. 2015 is the only year since then that have been great,

90m stadium addition. 70m football facility - one of the best in B1G. Salaries among the tops in the conference.

KF and his kid had the table totally set again for Iowa this year, and they shit the bed.

Last week against NU, coaching staff totally lost and outschemed again.

Time to stop stealing from the fan base.
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I guess you didn't read the first post at the top of this page.
 
Okay Adam lets reflect a moment.....how did Iowa win yesterday??? We involved our TE's
and Toren Young. I dont want a football coach who cries, I want a guy who inspires and gets fired up not bench our best players just to prove a point!! We involved our best players and we win...period. we sit them down and dont involve them we lose. You want a coach who cries at press conferences fine, but dont ever complain when we go 6-6 7-5 and end up in Yankee stadium for a bowl game. If we had a vetted game plan vs NW, PSU, and or Purdue, we could be looking at a 10-2'season. Let that soak in while you are giving kudos to a coach who earns almost $6 million and cries at press conferences. Thats no lie...Its a fact Jack.
Adam said:
The dude literally cries everytime we win. Saying he has no emotion is dumb and a lie.

Want Ferentz gone? Ok I'm with ya. No need to make up lies. It's enough to just say the guy can't get the job done.
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