Five Non-Conference Power 5 Programs for Hawkeyes' Schedule
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Fryowa
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The ISU game is the problem. It's a joke series, a total lose/lose for Iowa. If the Hawks win it's back page news, if they lose it's the end of the season before it starts. The only people who like it are homers who don't follow college football closely or ISU fans.
Obviously that doesn't address the other 13 teams, but on that note I like 9 conference games. And we all know there's no way the Big Ten is going back to 8 games. They'd lose money, and Moos is a total blowhard. If we believe him we also have to believe that Harbaugh and Meyer are scared to play his tire fire team.
We just need to schedule tougher non-cons and go to a 5+3 CFP.
Obviously that doesn't address the other 13 teams, but on that note I like 9 conference games. And we all know there's no way the Big Ten is going back to 8 games. They'd lose money, and Moos is a total blowhard. If we believe him we also have to believe that Harbaugh and Meyer are scared to play his tire fire team.
We just need to schedule tougher non-cons and go to a 5+3 CFP.
SteveGarvey1
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I agree to an extent that the ISU series is problematic. It's been talked about before, but let's reduce it to a home and home within a time span of four or five years.
I'd rather have eight conference games. I hate the years when we have five B1G road games while only having four home ones.
ArvadaHawk
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i had always felt CO would have been a good B1G member. I don't think people realize how many folks live in the moutain west and home many Iowan's live in CO. Yes, Denver is a pro city and college football takes a backseat, but it isn't ignored. if you get into the Denver market, that pretty much get's you all of NM, UT, ID, WY and MT. There is a lot of talent in CO/UT and it's worth the recruiting.
I'd love to see home/home with ND. I'm a ND fan so that's be a win/win for me. But I don't see ND doing it with Iowa. We aren't their "caliber" and they protect their schedule as much as they can because they're still independent. They have traditional patsies they play and they need them on their schedule to compensate for the really big names they also play. Iowa is between a patsy and really big name and that makes them too much of a risk. we'd be an ISU to ND, in their minds. right or wrong.
Edit: I should also add that CO is full of Midwest transplants from Iowa, IN, MI, NE, OH, WI. There is a big B1G base living in CO and the mountain west.
I'd love to see home/home with ND. I'm a ND fan so that's be a win/win for me. But I don't see ND doing it with Iowa. We aren't their "caliber" and they protect their schedule as much as they can because they're still independent. They have traditional patsies they play and they need them on their schedule to compensate for the really big names they also play. Iowa is between a patsy and really big name and that makes them too much of a risk. we'd be an ISU to ND, in their minds. right or wrong.
Edit: I should also add that CO is full of Midwest transplants from Iowa, IN, MI, NE, OH, WI. There is a big B1G base living in CO and the mountain west.
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Fryowa
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I see your point, but the other side of the coin is every other year we have 5 home games.
Switching to 8 total you're not going to ever increase the amount of home games. From a fan standpoint the years we have five home games give more options to those of us in-staters who have to travel a ways to see games.
Kirk's preference for cupcakes also made the start of the season borderline drudgery. Look at 2013; we had to sit through a month of shit teams before conference ball even started. Northern Illinois, Missouri State, ISWho, and Western Michigan. 2014 and 2015 were the same with the exception of a competitive Pitt team (I'd take a yearly contest with them over the clowns any day). We all know that if Daddy F. went back to 8 conference games there'd be no exciting matchups, just more snoozer FCS games.
Fryowa
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ND is a good team, but the above is false. The day UND has to play nine P5 teams every year is the day they can call Iowa a weak spot in their schedule. Jesus.
ArvadaHawk
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You mean like UM, PU, MSU, OSU, USC, GA, Stan, UT? ND's schedule is filled with P5 opponents and non P5 opponents, as well as, patsies in order to simulate a valid P5 conference schedule. Iowa would be too dangerous for them to play. They'd get no benefit such as we feel about ISU.
hawkdrummer1
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"genuine dislike" between Iowa and Mizzou? meh...not really.
pythagoras
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Fryowa
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Holy shit I thought you were talking about North Dakota.
I retract my statement and change my disagreement to agreement.
Notre Dame would be good.
ArvadaHawk
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AreWeThereYet
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I understand the local rivalry and revenue this generates, but both teams are playing 9 game conference schedules. Over the long run having no P-5 level OOC games hurts both teams. Does this rivalry have to be set in stone every damn year. This whole thing was already old, now it is ridiculous.
Let's be blunt. Iowa State is so afraid about the state of things, they won't even take a two game break to schedule a home-at-home. Good God, play Nebraska or Mizzou once, while opposing fans remember who Iowa State is. Iowa State should be playing teams in potential recruiting areas, Games against Minnesota or Purdue would be well attended.
They won't even try a one timer to test the waters. If they ever get dumped by the Big Twelve they'll have no more clout with recruits than South Dakota State. If they don't schedule games with nearby P-5 opponents they're setting themselves up for problems down the road. Same with Iowa though to a lesser extent.
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Fryowa
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An every year Iowa State/Nebraska game makes more sense than our own series. They played each other every year from 1926-2009 and a whole bunch of times before tha going back to the 19th century. And the two teams are a whole lot closer in talent than the Hawks now, no matter what Scott Frost and his gimp nation says.
AreWeThereYet
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No genuine dislike between Missou and Iowa. The whole negro players issue is ancient history. That was the source of bad blood in the early 20th century.
For one thing northern Missouri and southern Iowa are lightly populated (and decreasing). There is surprisingly little interchange between the two states. Transportation and commerce in the middle states is set up more east-west than north-south.
Mizzou has some interest in keeping Iowa out of the Saint Louis and Kansas City recruiting market as much as possible. Mizzou only has a peripheral interest in recruiting Iowa.That's a bit of a factor.
At the time of the snub, Iowa had a bit of a reputation for slugging it out. The only team Mizzou played that was comparable was Kansas State. It turned out Iowa's run in the early 00's was ending. Mizzou would have been fine, but that was their choice.
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AreWeThereYet
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Or at least a home-at-home one freakin time. Proof the sky won't fall if Iowa State skips the instate rivalry game twice.
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guffus
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Iowa could keep it's current conference schedule of 9 conference games and if they just gave up 1 home game every 6 years, they could play another P5 OOC school every 3 years.
Iowa should schedule these P5 OOC games in the years that Iowa plays MD and Indy in cross-division. Then in the years Iowa plays MSU, OSU or Mich, Iowa can play it's normal cupcakes in the OOC.
Iowa should schedule these P5 OOC games in the years that Iowa plays MD and Indy in cross-division. Then in the years Iowa plays MSU, OSU or Mich, Iowa can play it's normal cupcakes in the OOC.
hawkeyes87
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You know ND plays at Northwestern this year, right?
And not at Soldier Field - in Evanston.
You can't really say NW is more of a patsy than the Hawks, and I wouldn't call them more of a big name...
hawkeyes87
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KF would never agree to Va Tech or OU.
That would put too much strain on his 7 wins bonus.
That would put too much strain on his 7 wins bonus.
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SteveGarvey1
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I'm assuming you mean KF and not HF. HF never shied away from playing anyone really. Least not as much as KF.
