Finebaum rips B10

Even the mothership selected Madison over Bama vs. Florida.

I guess he doesnt know that Temple is good, Alabama was expected to beat up PSU and Illinois beat ASU.
 
H8IAST8 said:
Even the mothership selected Madison over Bama vs. Florida.

I guess he doesnt know that Temple is good, Alabama was expected to beat up PSU and Illinois beat ASU.
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The team that has won 5 of your last 6 conference titles got beat by Miami. the same Miami that lost to KSU. Your league is down. How good has Minnesota looked BTW? You can cherry pick results, but your league is still the second worst in the BCS on the field this year.
 
i think its funny how he brings up "tattoogate" but doesn't say a word about the problems SEC schools have such as paying cam newton to win another championship for the conference.

other than that i can't argue too much with what he says. but i will say he comes off as a condescending ******* who probably needs to spit his chew
 
That article was pretty hash but last year's bowl season, the off season, & this year's pre-conference season has been a train wreck for the whole conference.

The unquestioned leader of the conference, OSU is exposed for playing guys who were ineligible and still can't beat SEC teams straight up.

Wisconsin, the new champ gets beat in the Rose Bowl by a team from a non AQ conference after commish Delany publically digs on non AQ teams.

Iowa was dragged through the mud all off season for the weight lifting situation.

Michigan has been pathetic on & off the field.

I don't like hearing it or reading it but the B10 has made itself easy targets.

And don't read anything into the "mothership" chosing Madison as the Gameday spot over Gainesville. There was no choice. ESPN/ABC are partners. No way they are going do their show and showcase a game being played at the same time as NEB/WIS on a rival network.
 
brett108 said:
The team that has won 5 of your last 6 conference titles got beat by Miami. the same Miami that lost to KSU. Your league is down. How good has Minnesota looked BTW? You can cherry pick results, but your league is still the second worst in the BCS on the field this year.
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Better than Indiana.
 
I can't really argue with it.

The primary reasons I can list for loving Big Ten football are:

1) I am an Iowa fan
2) I grew up on it
3)....I just ran out of reasons

The SEC is more like Avatar...a high tech runaway blockbuster, cutting edge. The Big Ten is more like Blade Runner...not the wow effects, but a solid story line that you keep coming back to, even though its somewhat dated.
 
What do you expect? Look at how the Big Ten was humiliated on New Year's Day.

TCU beats Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Florida beat Penn State by 14, Alabama thrashed Michigan State by 42 and Mississippi State drilled Michigan by 38. Further, Northwestern lost to Texas Tech.

It was an embarrassing day.

Ohio State didn't help matters playing five ineligible players & having to vacate the victory. Plus, the beat downs by Florida & LSU in the championship games don't help.

Everybody yells & screams that ESPN is anti Big Ten. I don't think so. With its bowl performance, the Big Ten doesn't deserve much respect. The Big Ten needs to beat several SEC teams during the bowl season to earn respect.

Two years ago the Big Ten was getting some respect with Rose & Orange Bowl victories, Wisconsin beating Miami & Penn State beating LSU. All top fifthteen teams in the coaches poll. However, last year was embarrassing.
 
ColumbusHawk said:
Two years ago the Big Ten was getting some respect with Rose & Orange Bowl victories, Wisconsin beating Miami & Penn State beating LSU. All top fifthteen teams in the coaches poll. However, last year was embarrassing.
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I have always thought it was interesting that that particular bowl season coincided with a record cold-snap in the south. The games were played on sloppy fields and in frigid (by southern standards) conditions. Magically, the Big Ten looked great.
 
brett108 said:
The team that has won 5 of your last 6 conference titles got beat by Miami. the same Miami that lost to KSU. Your league is down. How good has Minnesota looked BTW? You can cherry pick results, but your league is still the second worst in the BCS on the field this year.
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Minnesota? ? ? How is Kentucky doing, or Ole Miss?
 
Get use to the BIG bashing all year because it is going to be there. BIG needs a good bowl season especially the BCS representatives need to do well. If anything for perception purposes.
 
Finebaum = unlistenable. Boring one note garbage. You'd think alabama and nick saban walk on water.
 
Gameday has gone to non ESPN/ABC games in the past. Neb's first B10 game is bigger than 2 teams that play each other every year.
 
People are going to bash the Big Ten until the Big Ten starts beating the SEC. Nobody outside of Illinois cares that Illinois beat ASU. When you get a shot to play an SEC team, especially at home, you gotta kick their azz! You cannot make excuses about players being ineligible or it is a down year, I am tired of hearing that. The Big Ten snagged Nebraska now it is time to start cleaning up these OCC games especially the Bowls.
 
ssckelley said:
People are going to bash the Big Ten until the Big Ten starts beating the SEC. Nobody outside of Illinois cares that Illinois beat ASU. When you get a shot to play an SEC team, especially at home, you gotta kick their azz! You cannot make excuses about players being ineligible or it is a down year, I am tired of hearing that. The Big Ten snagged Nebraska now it is time to start cleaning up these OCC games especially the Bowls.
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The poll voters seems to care.
 
VintageHawkeye said:
Finebaum = unlistenable. Boring one note garbage. You'd think alabama and nick saban walk on water.
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Yes, the Finebaum show is one note. It also, however, demonstrates why the SEC is the dominant football conference. The insanity of the fans in the South drives the competition in the SEC. For instance, fans at Ole Miss are threatening serious physical harm to the president and AD of the university if they don't fire Houston Nutt. That doesn't happen (nor should it) at universities not in the SEC. While it is, in many ways, a strike against those fan bases, it also shows why the SEC schools will do anything to win. I never understood it until moving to SEC country, but it's a whole different ball game down here.
 
The Big Ten does not have a sterling non-conference football record this year. All conferences have down years. You can point to a number of reasons, but the Big Ten will still matter. It has interesting games almost every week. This week it is Nebraska vs Wisconsin (abc at 7pm). Next week Iowa vs Penn State (abc 2:30) and Nebraska vs Ohio State (abc at 7pm). Week three you have Illinois (ranked team) vs Ohio State and Michigan vs Michigan State (both ranked). Week four you have Wisconsin vs Michigan State and in week five you have Ohio State vs Wisconsin.
There are trophy games mixed in as well.

The point is that the Big Ten still has an appealing schedule of games for a very large audience and it is reflected in what games are selected for regional and national broadcast at the tier one and two levels.
 
FML said:
Wisconsin-Nebraska a much needed game for struggling Big Ten - Paul Finebaum - SI.com

No surprise, as he is an admitted SEC homer. B10 is down this year, but the UW/NE game is still huge and I bet it pulls in better ratings than the SEC game.
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They're not mutually exclusive. I like Big Ten football first and foremost because that is what I grew up on, and I love the idea of a football game in the fall in the upper Midwest, it drips with tradition, nostalgia and all that's good with college football, but who doesn't like watching an SEC game. However, poking at the Big Ten to promote the SEC is a tacit acknowledgement of the importance of the Big Ten - why else would he deem it necessary to discuss in such great detail the relevance of the Big Ten, if in fact it was so irrelevant. See the article for what it doesn't say as much as what it does say.
 
gonzoJM said:
Yes, the Finebaum show is one note. It also, however, demonstrates why the SEC is the dominant football conference. The insanity of the fans in the South drives the competition in the SEC. For instance, fans at Ole Miss are threatening serious physical harm to the president and AD of the university if they don't fire Houston Nutt. That doesn't happen (nor should it) at universities not in the SEC. While it is, in many ways, a strike against those fan bases, it also shows why the SEC schools will do anything to win. I never understood it until moving to SEC country, but it's a whole different ball game down here.
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No doubt about it, they operate under a different set of rules down there.
And mix in the fact that the best prep talent is down there, and you have a perfect storm of lawlessness and excellence in football programs.

OSU did beat Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. Yes,they used tattooed up players who should not have been on the field,but again, when Trent Richardson is tooling around in a 60k Yukon, I can overlook a few tattoos.
If fans are going to cite violaters at OSU and then overlook the SEC guys while extolling the excellence of their football programs...and discount when OSU does win...well, double-standards are not cool.

I am not afraid to admit that the SEC generally fields better teams than the Big Ten....so what? They have huge advantages. It is like the Iowa Conference fans complaining about not being as good as UNI.
The SEC operates under different rules,so the Big Ten should never be expected to compete with them,just like the Ivy League should not compete with the Big Ten. The oversigning,the booster networks that pay players pretty openly, the casino scam to pay players, the local talent...how could the Big Ten ever compete with that? Can't.

I will lose zero sleep over it.
 
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