Actually I edit this because at the end of the year we had the 4th hardest schedule. Let's see where Nebraska's ranks at the end of the year.
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Dude, nobody is going to judge you for a little peppermint schnapps or Bailey's in your coffee on a Monday morning. But the whole bottle???
HawkGold
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I don't drink. Just an observation.
Maybe you should.
You post no facts about being avg. Furthermore, even if Iowa has a lower median household income than say California, you can buy a pretty nice house here for 150-200. Rent in San Francisco, is what an avg of $3500 a month? 42,000 a year.
Des Moines rates 97th out of 112 for cost of living.
I suspect we are probably top 25-30% in education.
HawkGold
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Facts? one of the reasons for the low cost of living is low demand.
Iowa ranks very high on HS basics, largely do to a low minority population. Funding is average. What is a fact is that Iowa is like 47th or 48th in number of college graduates. The low college grad rate is a bit puzzling as Iowa has 3 pretty major 4 yr schools that are very cheap by surrounding state standards such as Wisky, MN, IL.
Never said Iowa was "bad". I said that Iowa was very average which goes along with the football program. Iowa is a very average P5 program. Iowans in general are good with that. However, they as a group are defensive about that. Be in a conversation in surrounding state with an Iowan present and listen to the conversation.
SF is so high because it is pretty land locked and that is where job growth is at. California has vast parts that are way lower than parts of Iowa.
guffus
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It's funny, I have always thought of Missouri as the state that is in the middle of everything.
Middle of population rankings
Middle of state size rankings
Middle of the country geographicly
A slave state that did not join the confederacy, because, uh it was in the middle.
The State is sn interesting mix of urban and rural populations.
You could make the argument that Missouri would be a better state to have the first in the nation presidential primary, ironically because it is so average.
Middle of population rankings
Middle of state size rankings
Middle of the country geographicly
A slave state that did not join the confederacy, because, uh it was in the middle.
The State is sn interesting mix of urban and rural populations.
You could make the argument that Missouri would be a better state to have the first in the nation presidential primary, ironically because it is so average.
Well I've lived in 8 states. We may not have pockets of wealth like California and parts of the south, but we also don't have the poor like those that live in the deserts of the SW and swaps of the South.
College graduation is affected by the fact that Iowa has a large industry sector compared to it's population. We produce and manufacturer a bunch.
So some people are fine with making $22 an HR, buying a house in a small town and being happy. If they weren't, who would fill all those jobs?
Plus at $10,000 an acre (or about) a 100 (there aren't any, because big business ran them under) farm is worth close to a million dollars. So a kid who's dad still farms, has no need to go to school. Who goes to school to farm???? If you do, you have to be like Green Acres type of people. Because where are you going to come up with 5 plus million to get started??
The only ones who go to school to farm are athletes that want to take a shot and see how good they really are before going back to the family farm.
My point is, you don't need a college degree as much in Iowa to make a living. Granted it may not be glamorous, but it's not tin shack in the desert and it's not Wall Street either. But its not really avg either in many more ways than it is avg.
College graduation is affected by the fact that Iowa has a large industry sector compared to it's population. We produce and manufacturer a bunch.
So some people are fine with making $22 an HR, buying a house in a small town and being happy. If they weren't, who would fill all those jobs?
Plus at $10,000 an acre (or about) a 100 (there aren't any, because big business ran them under) farm is worth close to a million dollars. So a kid who's dad still farms, has no need to go to school. Who goes to school to farm???? If you do, you have to be like Green Acres type of people. Because where are you going to come up with 5 plus million to get started??
The only ones who go to school to farm are athletes that want to take a shot and see how good they really are before going back to the family farm.
My point is, you don't need a college degree as much in Iowa to make a living. Granted it may not be glamorous, but it's not tin shack in the desert and it's not Wall Street either. But its not really avg either in many more ways than it is avg.
You are right in concept about Iowa as a lower-educated state, although the numbers I found were not 47th or 48th. According to a Wall St Journal analysis of recent census data, Iowa is 37th in educational attainment. Iowa is the only state the reported a drop in educational attainment since the previous census. If you are interested in neighboring states: MN 10th, IL 11th, NE 21st, WI 29th, MO 31st. (link)
There is more to choosing a place to live than the educational status of your neighbors. According to US News & World Reports, Iowa ranks 9th nationally on their quality of life index (link).
Of the 125 largest major metros, Des Moines ranked #4 as best place to live considering affordability, job prospects, and quality of life (again USNWR, link).
HawkGold
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The rankings of quality of life in general are opinions. I never said Iowa wasn't a good place to live at all. I can easily find Iowa's ranking on 4 year degrees, but I need to get out the door.
Of course there is much interpretation that goes into creating a quality of life index from available data. But the general consensus seems to be that Iowa is a pretty decent place to live. A site called wallethub.com ranked states by happiness, with Iowa being 8th. Here is a different source that developed a Well-Being Index, placing Iowa as the 21st "happiest and healthiest" state.
Based upon your previous comments, I would imagine you would attribute that to Iowa having a whole bunch of average people who are just fine and dandy with being average (a paraphrase of one of your earlier statements). That could be true. It could also be that Iowa has quite a few people who prioritize happiness and quality of life over other metrics of "success." Heck, maybe those are just 2 ways of saying the same thing.
Wikipedia has a sortable database of educational attainment stats from the American Community survey (annual survey of 3.5 million households). It has Iowa as 9th in % of population with a HS diploma, 35th in bachelor %, and 41st in advanced degree %.
It ranks high in safety as well.
When we started talking about education, I was referring to hs. College brings upon it's self the fact that it's not for everyone. But to think that a non college grad is not intelligent is a false statement. At best it means they underachieved or didn't max their potential. Intelligence starts at birth or possibly before. It's why, excluding the the extremes, you can watch two children who have never seen a puzzle before and one does it fast and the other one has much more difficulty. That's avg people, not genius and not window lickers.
I have met lot's of people with degrees that definitely fall into the have more difficulty area.
Some of which I can't even believe have them.
I have met hs grads who amaze me with how much they know.
Being smart isn't a college thing and never has been. Before the internet, they had libraries, dictionaries and encyclopedias.
College however is very good at opening your mind and teaching you to play nice with others. Some need that more than others.
QuadCityHawkeye
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Iowa will throttle Iowa State this year. Time Stamp it.
let's see Nebraska and Nebraska and Ohio State. We didn't go conservative. You know he does not like ISU. Kirk is a get along type guy. he wants to win yes, but he doesn't want to "embarrass" his opponents. Brian has the reigns on offense and since it's his kid he has to let him go and do it. KF is not gonna tell BF to quit scoring and run up the fullback up the gut 3 times in a row.
HawkGold
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There is a difference between embarrassing opponents and keeping the score close...too close. It's the conservative style and based on not wanting to turn the ball over and "execution". He followed up OSU with Wisky. Nebby was a toasted team at that point. Just don't see how this game can be predicted. Btw, I did predict OSU game last year. I didn't post it, but I didn't expect it to be close. I did not predict the egg laid at Wisky. Iowa lost a lot of O and D heart from last years team. ISU is the team with the chip on the shoulder. Early in the year the depth balances out.
Embarrassing someone pry shouldn't be high on the to do list. HOWEVER!!!! How many times have we thought, "ya know we have pretty much been in control the whole game, up by 10 or 14 10:00 to go, we can let up" only to have them score get the ball back and score again???
That's with teams that are less talented then OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin.
When a team can score in under 2:00 and we all have our two minute drills. You can't let up.
I mean if you are up 56 to 3 going into the 4th against a weak ooc, yeah definitely get some other guys pt.
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hawkdrummer1
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Kinda. Iowa was a miracle away from losing to UNI at home. That was classic "slow start" Kirk.
HawkGold
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InGoodCo
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This response was hysterical:
It all sounds good until a guy like this shows up
I actually LOL'd pretty hard at that. They could have put Barkley there too. All in all, those are some impressive #'s for the team the last 5 seasons, and most Iowa fans think we haven't been any good. That's a good thing, for most part, none of us are satisfied and want to be better.