Effed up playoff system
- Thread starter BigD
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HuckFinn
Well-Known Member
I will call the selection committee today and keep them in the loop.
Fryowa
Administrator
Tell them to try and take care of it yet this year.
32 teams.
Drop one noncon, no more conference title games. Start week zero, this year would be 8/23. 11 games with a bye.
Playoffs start November 22nd, end December 20th. You avoid NFL playoffs and conference basketball season for the most part.
Portal opens 12/22.
Tell me who complains.
Drop one noncon, no more conference title games. Start week zero, this year would be 8/23. 11 games with a bye.
Playoffs start November 22nd, end December 20th. You avoid NFL playoffs and conference basketball season for the most part.
Portal opens 12/22.
Tell me who complains.
Fryowa
Administrator
You didn't specify how teams qualify. That would make me complain because unless all 32 spots are allotted and seeded by criteria vs a committee or human-voted poll, it's technically not any better than what we have now.
8 teams...
First two teams in each P4 conference make it.
First round is 1/2 in each conference and serves as the CCG. Kills two birds with one stone and doesn't add any extra games.
Defined criteria, every team knows what they have to do at the start of the season and there's no poll, no committee, no humans involved whatsoever in selection.
Non cons don't have to drop, nor do they matter one iota in terms of strength of schedule. Play North Texas, Western Illinois, and Central Michigan, or 'Bama, Oregon, and ND. None of it will make or break your playoff run.
Playoffs don't last a month...short and sweet. Technically it's only two weeks because of the first round already happening today.
Also, if you're the 32nd best team in the country you shouldn't be able to make up t-shirts that say you made the playoffs.
Tell me who complains.
kameltoez102
Well-Known Member
Ultimately I think what needs to happen is getting rid of two non-conference games at least and then the larger conferences go back to divisions within the conference to determine who play each other in the conf championship game. I would almost lean towards not having the conference game but the money is too big but I also think if they go to a division based model you will need those games to help settle seeding and see more head to head match-ups to compare and contrast. Two more teams would be ideal so you could have 4 5 team divisions for the BIG10 and all teams start the week before labor day.
Each year you play everyone in your division and then rotate the others. Then you have a play in game between the east/west division vs the North/south division or something like that for the conf. Championship. If you want in the playoff you cannot play Group of 5 or FBS teams anymore. Group of 5 is SOL Unless for some reason they have just an incredible team with some high quality wins but with less out of conference games that would be nearly impossible for them to do and would also force Notre Dame to get in a conference. The SEC, ACC, and Big 12 can do something similar. Move to 16 or maybe 20 teams tops with no first round byes. End of regular season and Playoffs all teams get 2 weeks off. The first two rounds are at the higher seed school then the semi-finals and finals are rotated to different neutral sites. I think we would see more consistent competition and more parity.
Group of 5 teams would go to bowl games to help recoup some of the lost money they would normally get from playing the Power 5 schools. Not sure how the finance would work out but the group of 5 will end up hurting I think. Obviously there are other ways to do it but I think those are treading dangerously close to not even resembling college football and we are close enough as it is.
At 32 I don’t really care the criteria. You could even give the top 8 a bye and just go 24 for all I care. if you aren’t in the top 24 or 32 you simply probably aren’t a good team.
I want non cons to drop. Most of the games kind of suck, I’d rather them play meaningful games.
I dont want CCG’s to determine who makes it because I dont want a team who misses all of the top teams in a conference on their schedule to make it.
I want the playoffs to last a month.
Similar to something I proposed earlier...
G6 --> top 2 from conference regular season --> (12 teams)
ACC and Big 12 (JV) --> each conference pics their top 4 (presumed regular season performance with set tie-breakers) --> (8 teams)
P2 (B1G and SEC) --> each conference pics their top 6 (presumed regular season performance with set tie-breakers) --> (12 teams)
That gives you 32. If you want a shorter playoff, cut each of those in half and eliminate a round.
I like @BryceC 's idea about starting at Week 0 and eliminating conference championship games. I think 11 games is going to be a challenge, that would hurt the teams that buy a home-game, and it might hurt the lower-level schools that count on those games as a big part of their revenue. Could the value of a 32-game bracket add enough value (media contract) to offset fewer games? Could a revenue-sharing model be agreed upon such that the idea of "buying" home games is no longer necessary?
The other big issue I see is trying to determine the top teams in the mega-conferences when they have unbalanced schedules. @Fryowa , I like the idea of having objective criteria, but that does get hard when SOS can vary substantially within a conference. It might just have to be one of those things you live with; no matter the criteria, if you couldn't work your way into the top 20-33% of the conference, you don't have much to complain about. I do think mandating 9 in-conference games for the P4 would help a bit.
