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alexzelada
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Stanzi improved, it was the head coach who remained the same. You're still a joke.
Eddie Podolak
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I'm not ripping Stanzi. I am questioning the coaching staff's ability to develop QB's. Just like you are questioning the coaching staff. Stanzi did not get better as a QB. Your comment suggests you have not watched iowa football or you don't know anything about how to develop talent. You don't know what you don't know.
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alexzelada
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You're either confusing yourself or abusing yourself. Once you check his year by year P.E. rating you'll realize this.
Stanzi also had the ball on a couple of late game drives last year with a chance to win and he crumbled under the pressure. He was able to pull those same games out of the fire as a Soph and Jr, but couldn't the job done as a SR.
Who the hell cares about yards and INTs, wins are the only state that matters.
Who the hell cares about yards and INTs, wins are the only state that matters.
skinnykilmer17
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I have said it before. It is getting old. But here goes again.
1. KOK has been at Iowa for over 12 years.
2. KOK is the QB coach.
3. KOK runs a Pro-Style Offense.
4. Until this year a KOK-coached QB at Iowa had never made it onto an NFL roster.
5. No KOK-coached QB has ever taken a snap in a regular season NFL game.
What more is their to say about coaching QB's. It would be different if you ran a spread offense and had zero QB's in the NFL. But a Pro-Style Offense?
1. KOK has been at Iowa for over 12 years.
2. KOK is the QB coach.
3. KOK runs a Pro-Style Offense.
4. Until this year a KOK-coached QB at Iowa had never made it onto an NFL roster.
5. No KOK-coached QB has ever taken a snap in a regular season NFL game.
What more is their to say about coaching QB's. It would be different if you ran a spread offense and had zero QB's in the NFL. But a Pro-Style Offense?
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alexzelada
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The players change from year to year but the coaches stay the same. What's the common denominator for our underachieving? Stanzi and KOK are both handcuffed. If you're a Hawkeye fan and you don't "get" this you've had a lobotomy. Asking for heroics from Stanzi or any QB to overcome bad coaching is the definition of stupid.
These comments bring me back to my statement that you must not have watched any games. As several others have pointed out, Stanzi regressed when it came to his ability to make decisions last year when it mattered. This points to how the coaches develop our QB's.
okeefe4prez
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I don't think Stanzi regressed, I think the opposition realized after watching the Arizona tape that you just need to send the kitchen sink after Stanzi because our o-coordinator has a tendency to call slow developing plays (because the head coach insists on that) and it turned Stanzi into a sitting duck back there.
We are saying the same thing regarding the coaches. Stanzi had improved stats, less ints, more TD's, etc, but the coaches crippled him in his ability to make decisions for himself. He regressed in this area. If you don't see that, then you did not watch the games last year.
Great point! I have always viewed it as the coaching staff taking away our QB's decision making in attempt to have them be more programmed to their thinking. It very well maybe the tendency to call plays that are slow to develop that caused the poor performance at the end of games. I still don't see evidence of tate, JC, Chandler or other qb's developing. Although, with Stanzi it may have been the play calling.
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alexzelada
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Not saying they develop QBs. I'm saying Stanzi improved his game and Vandy is good enough to get us 9 wins this season. Our head coaches conservatism hurts ALL our QBs. Late game collapses are due more to demoralized players and cowardly game strategies than individuals. It's a team sport and since you are unable to grasp that I'm concluding you have brain cancer.
okeefe4prez
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Tate got better, but he was hurt his senior season. From 2004 to 2005, he got a lot better, but we turned over the whole d-line and the defense really fell off. If we had 2004's defense with 2005's offense, we would have been sick. The great story about Tate was that before the Alamo Bowl in 2006 his old man noticed something was wrong with his mechanics and worked on it and Tate came out in the Alamo Bowl and had a pretty good game (which I think we would have won but for the illegal formation penalty late in the first half), but it was interesting that Tate's old man and not our renowned QB coach was the one to realize how the injury was impacting his mechanics.
Okeefeforprez is much more compelling in his argument than you. We agree on most of what we are both saying. You are saying rs got better in spite of the coaches. Not sure where you conclude I can't grasp it is a team sport and you are very inconsistent in your logic. You are a class act bringing brain cancer into this. Stop to think about saying stuff like that before you say it. Hope you don't have anyone in your life who ever gets brain cancer.
imported_UHawk
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One does have a spot on a local radio show once a week here in Des Moines though. That has got to count for something.
spudhawk
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There is no doubt Stanzi was better his senior season compared to his first two seasons, mechanically and mentally. He regressed in risk taking but Iowa's offense was night and day from 2009.
UrbandaleHawk01
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I would put you in the top 5 stupidest posters on this site. And as you stated no rationale or explanation as to why/how the posters on this thread are so incredibly stupid, I'll leave my original statement as-is
spudhawk
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Fair and a lot of truth in this. Iowa's oline underperformed late last season and most of this one.
okeefe4prez
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Last year we were depleted at guard by the end of the year.
I hear what you are saying, but he appeared to be more afraid to make a decision in fear it might be a bad decision when the game was on the line. As another poster has since pointed it out, it may be the result of play calling that causes me to believe he was second guessing himself late in games.
