Dual Threat QB

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1hawkifan

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Obvisously this offense is better suited for a dual threat qb. I'm just curious why we didn't recruit one. Is it because a lack of interests from players or did we not proactively pursue one?
 
1hawkifan said:
Obvisously this offense is better suited for a dual threat qb. I'm just curious why we didn't recruit one. Is it because a lack of interests from players or did we not proactively pursue one?
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Who says these three qbs cant run the ball. JVB showed late last year on a few plays he could run and they should have let him run from game one to keep defenses honest.

We dont have to have a shoelaces or TMart to be really effective and I thought beathard and sokol showed good feet and speed.

Heck a qb who can keep the ball a couple times each half and carve out 4-6 yards from the zone read or a broken play will keep the opposing defense from running downhill on first hawk movement.

Over the years and especially the last couple years when the hawks showed no tendency to run counter plays the opponent would just crash and scrape toward the first direction our QB turned toward, it got to the point of hilarious watching opponent linebackers just selling out last year.
 
Some coaches don't like putting their QB in harms way more often than they have too. And if injured the offense sputters. Look what happened when Stanzi (?) got hurt a few years ago against NW. The offense went flat.
 
uihawk82 said:
Who says these three qbs cant run the ball. JVB showed late last year on a few plays he could run and they should have let him run from game one to keep defenses honest.

We dont have to have a shoelaces or TMart to be really effective and I thought beathard and sokol showed good feet and speed.

Heck a qb who can keep the ball a couple times each half and carve out 4-6 yards from the zone read or a broken play will keep the opposing defense from running downhill on first hawk movement.

Over the years and especially the last couple years when the hawks showed no tendency to run counter plays the opponent would just crash and scrape toward the first direction our QB turned toward, it got to the point of hilarious watching opponent linebackers just selling out last year.
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Well, there's a difference between having a mobile quarterback who doesn't have to stand in the back field like the statue of liberty, and having a QB that is a legit threat to use his feet and rip off big gains.

Tate, Stanzi, JVB.. Those guys were mobile. But you didn't see them ripping off any significant runs unless something broke down with the opposing D, and they had nothing but green in front of them, then they might pick up 10-20 yards and go out of bounds. Otherwise, those guys were all packet passers, or maybe would roll right or roll left and throw the ball downfield.

Then there are guys who you can design running plays around, a true dual threat. We haven't had that since Brad Banks.
 
How do you define dual-threat? Nic Shimonek, Iowa's 2013 QB recruit, rushed for 842 yards and 16 TDs as a high school senior.
 
Clearly the coaching staff failed by not bringing in the next Cam Newton. Those types of players grow on trees, you know.
 
I watched Shimonek in the Texas state title game,and he looked pretty athletic to me. Not like D-Rob fast but he could move well enough and seemed like a good runner with the ball.

But, Seeley is the true dual threat qb in the pipeline...next season he will be coming to Iowa.

I think that Sokol and Beathard can run the ball,and Rudock is not slow either. Sokol ran the zone-read play and looked good doing it,but not sure KF will want his qbs getting hit. Of course,with 3 of them,maybe we take a few more risks.
 
After watching the spring game, I'd say sokal paired with canzeri, give us the best chance at winning. After seeing only one "practice". I LOVE weiseman, but teams are just going to crash hard when he's in there.... Obviously a great 3rd down back.
 
Well when you only play one QB you really dont want him to run. Also are you guys sure they are allowed to run? I mean Northwestern throws short passes and has their QB run but they are not Iowa and do not have the recruiting problems Iowa has.
 
Based on the way our classes "grade out" vs theirs, I'd say we actually recruit better..... That hasn't been translating onto the field the last few years however
 
uihawk82 said:
Who says these three qbs cant run the ball. JVB showed late last year on a few plays he could run and they should have let him run from game one to keep defenses honest.
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^^This

Except maybe Nathan Chandler - we've always had dual threat QB. KF just simply chooses to never let the QB run. This year would be a good year to open things up. We have 3 equal QB so if one goes down I don't see any real drop off. The lack of a QB run threat is what has held this offense in the bottom half of the league throughout the KF era.
 
hwks1 said:
^^This

Except maybe Nathan Chandler - we've always had dual threat QB. KF just simply chooses to never let the QB run. This year would be a good year to open things up. We have 3 equal QB so if one goes down I don't see any real drop off. The lack of a QB run threat is what has held this offense in the bottom half of the league throughout the KF era.
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Except Chandler? Chandler had more rushing yards and more rushing TDs in 2003 than any other Iowa QB has had in a season in the last ten years.
 
I am pretty sure they told Scheel he could play qb or at least be considered for qb. he would be dual threat, right?
 
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