DON'T BE FOOLED!!! Even if Iowa beats Oklahoma...

[MrTHawk]

I would find another team or find something else to do with my time if I were as angry as you.

I'm fine where I am, but thanks for the advice. I enjoy having substantive conversations and debates about Hawkeye football.

But I'm consistently amazed how quickly ad hominem aspersions are thrown on this message board against those daring to question the status quo.

And for the record, I'm not angry at all. I am dissappointed with the program, however, and am concerned about its future. So I guess that makes me an undercover cyclone fan huh.

 

[MrTHawk]

Don't be fooled. Even if Iowa beats OU, Mr. T still wears extra small undies.

LOL - wouldn't you love to know

 

[FCAS]

I'm a tool?

If you believe Iowa's schemes are antiquated, then yes, you are a tool.

 

[rjbaustian]

You're not holding anyone's "feet to the fire". You come here talking all big and you're not ****. If you had the chance to tell Kirk what you think, you'd crumble like the ***** you are.....hence you're a tool

 

[iloveyoularrystation]

STFU already. 2nd post and you need to STFU

I'm not sure what all this St and these fu's stands for or what not types of nonsense, but i agree with everything you said here.

Ummm seriously absolutely ridiculous is the notion that we underachieved this year. The majority of everybody (accept me) thought we'd go about 8-4. If i told you at the beginning of the year that our two starting dtackles would be injured for the entire middle section of the season everybody probably would have added a loss or two. Give me a break and uh, whatever, and uh, did I mention give me a break?

If Iowa upsets Oklahoma it will be the big win of the year like msu last year. Absurd notion that this team underachieved this year. Last year we underachieved, this year we lost like 1 more game than everybody thought we would, that's called football sir.

 

[DuffMan]

What's the point of this thread?

While winning a bowl game might make a dissappointing season more palatable, it does nothing to negate the fact that program needs a jolt.. or at the very least a tweak.

I gave your mother a tweak last night Trabek.

 

[DuffMan]

What's the point of this thread?

While winning a bowl game might make a dissappointing season more palatable, it does nothing to negate the fact that program needs a jolt.. or at the very least a tweak.

I gave your mother a tweak last night Trabek.

 

[iloveyoularrystation]

Don't be fooled!!!! Even if Iowa beats Oklahoma....... Mr. T is still a character on the A-team which was a really good show and a really good movie remake of a classic show.

Don't be fooled!!!! Even if Iowa beats Oklahoma....... I'll still think this is a dumb thread created with a flawed premise.

 

[ChosenChildren]

LOL - wouldn't you love to know

Iowa is probably going to name a new defensive coordinator in the relatively near future. Why don't you do some real analysis on that issue, instead of issuing "edicts" about the bowl game. By the way, Iowa is about a 17 point underdog against Oklahoma. They will probably lose the game. In your world, does that automatically mean that we need to fire Ferentz and his staff? I won't be fooled by the bowl result (win or lose) anymore than I was fooled by the last 3 bowl games (all wins). Frankly, all I want to see is the team improve over the next few years (which I believe will happen).

Here is the reality: Ferentz is under contract for many more years. He has a good track record of success. He has his team in another top bowl game against a national opponent. The school cannot afford to let him go anyway.

Why not face that reality? I really don't understand the point of your post. Whether you like it or not, Ferentz is going to be the coach at Iowa for the foreseeable future. What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like a complete waste of time to constantly trash this coaching staff.

Frankly, if this team defeats Oklahoma as a 16 or 17 point underdog, I would celebrate that accomplishment. You can build a program on those types of wins, similar to what Iowa State is trying to do after the Oklahoma State upset.

Am I missing something here?

If our schemes are antiquated, how did we beat #13 Michigan this year? #12 Missouri last year? #6 MIchigan State last year? If you talk about the losses, why not talk about the wins?

 

[truehawk]

Wrong Wrong Wrong. Go away troll How did that Iowa State bowl bid work out?

LoL - McCarthyism at its finest.

Haha this has nothing to do with McCarthyism lol. Nice try tho.

 

[iloveyoularrystation]

If our schemes are antiquated, how did we beat #13 Michigan this year? #12 Missouri last year? #6 MIchigan State last year? If you talk about the losses, why not talk about the wins?

Because wins don't give the lunatic fringe fodder, losses do. Although by the theory of this thread maybe wins do also.

 

[truehawk]

What's the point of this thread?

While winning a bowl game might make a dissappointing season more palatable, it does nothing to negate the fact that program needs a jolt.. or at the very least a tweak.

I gave your mother a tweak last night Trabek.

Ahh rough just the way your mother likes it.

 

[MrTHawk]

You're not holding anyone's "feet to the fire". You come here talking all big and you're not ****. If you had the chance to tell Kirk what you think, you'd crumble like the ***** you are.....hence you're a tool

LOL.

Its been a pleasure exchanging personal opinions with you about the status of the Iowa footbal program and where it's heading. It appears, however, that I lack both the acumin and vocabulary to continue such an exchange with an intellectual of your level, without looking like a complete fool, as well as a tool.

Good day to you sir.

 

[MrTHawk]

Haha this has nothing to do with McCarthyism lol. Nice try tho.

Of course it does. Anyone who dares to question, let alone, criticize the infallible Ferentz is simply an unpatriotic Hawkeye, a cyclone fan, a communist.

 

[MrTHawk]

LoL, now we are descending to your mama jokes.. classic

 

[truehawk]

Haha this has nothing to do with McCarthyism lol. Nice try tho.

Of course it does. Anyone who dares to question, let alone, criticize the infallible Ferentz is simply an unpatriotic Hawkeye, a cyclone fan, a communist.

No that's a dictatorship. And it doesn't apply either.

 

[GhostofBTT]

I'm fine where I am, but thanks for the advice. I enjoy having substantive conversations and debates about Hawkeye football.

But I'm consistently amazed how quickly ad hominem aspersions are thrown on this message board against those daring to question the status quo.

And for the record, I'm not angry at all. I am dissappointed with the program, however, and am concerned about its future. So I guess that makes me an undercover cyclone fan huh.

Listen here n00b. No one is giving you crap for upsetting "The Status Quo". Trust me, worse things about the coaching staff have been said by smarter guys than you. No one likes you not because you're bringing bad news, but because you're bringing old news. We're done complaining about a coaching situation we can't change. It has been discussed in every conceivable detail, and there is nothing left to talk about.

So forgive me if I am ruining your victim complex here, but no one is trying to silence you because they don't like what you have to say. We don't want to listen to you because you brought up a beat to death topic and then became a total jerk when people didn't respond to it in the way you want.

You're old news. You're Sega Saturn in an X-Box 360 world. Piece of advice noob, before you post a topic, why don't you read around the board a bit.

 

[MrTHawk]

Why is questioning the coaching staff and/or criticising their decisions, always seem to be equated by so many of you as "trashing" the coaching staff.

My point is simply that the program needs a jolt, REGARDLESS of whether we come out against Oklahoma with smoking guns and pull off the upset.

Complacency is the precursor to decay. Ferentz and his staff are state employees, and like any other state employee, they should be held accountable for their performance, or lack thereof.

Iowa is probably going to name a new defensive coordinator in the relatively near future. Why don't you do some real analysis on that issue, instead of issuing "edicts" about the bowl game. By the way, Iowa is about a 17 point underdog against Oklahoma. They will probably lose the game. In your world, does that automatically mean that we need to fire Ferentz and his staff? I won't be fooled by the bowl result (win or lose) anymore than I was fooled by the last 3 bowl games (all wins). Frankly, all I want to see is the team improve over the next few years (which I believe will happen).

Here is the reality: Ferentz is under contract for many more years. He has a good track record of success. He has his team in another top bowl game against a national opponent. The school cannot afford to let him go anyway.

Why not face that reality? I really don't understand the point of your post. Whether you like it or not, Ferentz is going to be the coach at Iowa for the foreseeable future. What are you trying to accomplish? It seems like a complete waste of time to constantly trash this coaching staff.

Frankly, if this team defeats Oklahoma as a 16 or 17 point underdog, I would celebrate that accomplishment. You can build a program on those types of wins, similar to what Iowa State is trying to do after the Oklahoma State upset.

Am I missing something here?

If our schemes are antiquated, how did we beat #13 Michigan this year? #12 Missouri last year? #6 MIchigan State last year? If you talk about the losses, why not talk about the wins?

 

[ChosenChildren]

Of course it does. Anyone who dares to question, let alone, criticize the infallible Ferentz is simply an unpatriotic Hawkeye, a cyclone fan, a communist.

We are reading your posts and giving you a forum and you lash out. What are you trying to say here?

If you want changes to the coaching staff, I think that might happen (Norm might be retiring). Why don't you break that down, instead of making all of these childish comments? How old are you? 15?

 

[truehawk]

I'm fine where I am, but thanks for the advice. I enjoy having substantive conversations and debates about Hawkeye football. But I'm consistently amazed how quickly ad hominem aspersions are thrown on this message board against those daring to question the status quo. And for the record, I'm not angry at all. I am dissappointed with the program, however, and am concerned about its future. So I guess that makes me an undercover cyclone fan huh.

Listen here n00b. No one is giving you crap for upsetting "The Status Quo". Trust me, worse things about the coaching staff have been said by smarter guys than you. No one likes you not because you're bringing bad news, but because you're bringing old news. We're done complaining about a coaching situation we can't change. It has been discussed in every conceivable detail, and there is nothing left to talk about.So forgive me if I am ruining your victim complex here, but no one is trying to silence you because they don't like what you have to say. We don't want to listen to you because you brought up a beat to death topic and then became a total jerk when people didn't respond to it in the way you want.You're old news. You're Sega Saturn in an X-Box 360 world. Piece of advice noob, before you post a topic, why don't you read around the board a bit.

pow right in the kisser.