Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff?
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JonDMiller
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Re: Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff
The Big Ten shares bowl revenue. All bowl teams from Big Ten are given a spending budget..the better the bowl payout, the more budget you get. Iowa got 1.95 mil...say Ohio State got 2.2 mil...that's just over 4mil...and those two bowls paid out 22 mil to the big ten...so 18mil profit for the league...the league also earned profit from Cap One and Outback...the others, in total, maybe less than a break even.
Each school probably got a few mil from being in the bowl process, as being a part of the Big Ten.
The Big Ten shares bowl revenue. All bowl teams from Big Ten are given a spending budget..the better the bowl payout, the more budget you get. Iowa got 1.95 mil...say Ohio State got 2.2 mil...that's just over 4mil...and those two bowls paid out 22 mil to the big ten...so 18mil profit for the league...the league also earned profit from Cap One and Outback...the others, in total, maybe less than a break even.
Each school probably got a few mil from being in the bowl process, as being a part of the Big Ten.
Caven
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Re: Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff
That is the 55K left over from the travel budget. The shool made a LOT more money than that from the bowl. Per Big 10 agreement, every school gets a certain allotment of their bowl payout for travel. The bigger the bowl, the more money you get for this travel allotment. The rest of the money from the bowl is then thrown into the profit sharing pot and then each school gets 1/12 and the Big 10 offices get 1/12.
eta: And Jon beat me to it.
That is the 55K left over from the travel budget. The shool made a LOT more money than that from the bowl. Per Big 10 agreement, every school gets a certain allotment of their bowl payout for travel. The bigger the bowl, the more money you get for this travel allotment. The rest of the money from the bowl is then thrown into the profit sharing pot and then each school gets 1/12 and the Big 10 offices get 1/12.
eta: And Jon beat me to it.
TecmoSuperHawk
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Re: Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff
Iowa didn't profit $55k from the Orange Bowl. They were given $1.9 million of a budget for the Orange Bowl. They spent all of that budget but $55k.
The bowl payout money is split among the 11 Big Ten schools. So of the roughly $30 million the bowls paid out for Big Ten participation last year, probably $13-$14 million went to the schools to pay for the bowl trip. The remaining $16-$17 million gets split up among the member schools (perhaps the Big Ten retains some of this too, I don't know). What Iowa does with their budget has little affect on how much of a payout they receive for bowl participation.
Iowa didn't profit $55k from the Orange Bowl. They were given $1.9 million of a budget for the Orange Bowl. They spent all of that budget but $55k.
The bowl payout money is split among the 11 Big Ten schools. So of the roughly $30 million the bowls paid out for Big Ten participation last year, probably $13-$14 million went to the schools to pay for the bowl trip. The remaining $16-$17 million gets split up among the member schools (perhaps the Big Ten retains some of this too, I don't know). What Iowa does with their budget has little affect on how much of a payout they receive for bowl participation.
TecmoSuperHawk
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Re: Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff
Next point. If there was a switch to a playoff, would there be more money? That is nearly impossible to answer. The main question would be, who controls the playoff? Is it the NCAA? Then it would work much like the NCAA basketball tournament where they receive all the rights fees to broadcast the tournament and provide a payout to the participating institutions. This could be much less than the current bowl structure pays out. Would the NCAA only pay those in the tournament or also provide a payout to those that didn't make the playoffs? (Big Ten teams get money whether they make a bowl or not)
Now, what if the BCS conferences controlled the playoffs? Then no money would go directly to the NCAA and the BCS conferences would control the payout, which would likely be heavily skewed in their favor. If this were the case, then a playoff system would probably bring in more money.
But the BCS conferences do not want to mess with a system that works for them and brings their conferences in so much money. With a playoff, if the NCAA is in charge, the amount of money would be way down.
Next point. If there was a switch to a playoff, would there be more money? That is nearly impossible to answer. The main question would be, who controls the playoff? Is it the NCAA? Then it would work much like the NCAA basketball tournament where they receive all the rights fees to broadcast the tournament and provide a payout to the participating institutions. This could be much less than the current bowl structure pays out. Would the NCAA only pay those in the tournament or also provide a payout to those that didn't make the playoffs? (Big Ten teams get money whether they make a bowl or not)
Now, what if the BCS conferences controlled the playoffs? Then no money would go directly to the NCAA and the BCS conferences would control the payout, which would likely be heavily skewed in their favor. If this were the case, then a playoff system would probably bring in more money.
But the BCS conferences do not want to mess with a system that works for them and brings their conferences in so much money. With a playoff, if the NCAA is in charge, the amount of money would be way down.
Re: Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff
Re: Doesn't Jon's post Iowa OB 55K profit prove bowls are not more $$$ than a playoff
Tecmo the conference would still decide how playoff revenues were distributed I am sure, it would be part of their by-laws.
I just think though that it shows there is a lot of extra travel cost and expense that wouldn't need to be there with playing at the higher seeds home site to the visiting team and there definitely wouldn't be to the home team.
Tecmo the conference would still decide how playoff revenues were distributed I am sure, it would be part of their by-laws.
I just think though that it shows there is a lot of extra travel cost and expense that wouldn't need to be there with playing at the higher seeds home site to the visiting team and there definitely wouldn't be to the home team.
