BSpringsteen
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If we don't win a game for the rest of the year, does he still get another year?
Can you even fathom what the thoughts would be if Alford went 0-18. There would be a friggin murder. Yet, Lick keeps his job. Go figure!
Yep. He'll get at least 2 more years.
Can you even fathom what the thoughts would be if Alford went 0-18. There would be a friggin murder. Yet, Lick keeps his job. Go figure!
As many problems as there are in the program right now, I don't know that I go along with a change at the top. I think that would be automatic disaster...whereas I have not yet given up on Todd as Iowas coach. I want to see this team next year, to see this team with a core group of veterans, no key defections, with an infusion of young talent. Next year pays for all, IMO...and that doesnt have to mean an NIT bid...just get back to at least .500 and be competitive...that is going in the right direction
If we can get to .500 next year, this program is in good shape. Why do I say this? Think about it, that will mean we will have improved a ton with the players we have: SR (Cole) JR (Gatens, Archie, Fuller, & Brommer) SO (Payne, May, Cougil) FR (Larsen, Brust, Marble, & McCabe).
That in turn means we return all the players but Cole, and I would expect us to make the NCAA's in year 5 then. I think even if you fire Lick after year 4 then, whoever comes into the program should be expect to win right away with those players, seeing that kind of improvement.
Listen I get the argument that is shouldn't have taken this long, and getting back to .500 shouldn't be the goal, etc. I agree with that myself, yet the facts are the fact, and the fact is the team is not good this year. If they bounce back to .500 after the year they will have this year, that IS improvement, and is a sign we may have turned the corner finally.
As many problems as there are in the program right now, I don't know that I go along with a change at the top. I think that would be automatic disaster...whereas I have not yet given up on Todd as Iowas coach. I want to see this team next year, to see this team with a core group of veterans, no key defections, with an infusion of young talent. Next year pays for all, IMO...and that doesnt have to mean an NIT bid...just get back to at least .500 and be competitive...that is going in the right direction
I believe it depends on several factors:
1. What kind of preseason Barta and Lickliter cook up. If they water down the preseason like I think they plan to do so that it isn't as "tough" as it was this year and get many more cupcakes like Tennessee St on the schedule then Iowa will "win" more preseason games.
2. I believe they need to win half of their Big 10 games next year to consider making a legitimate improvement wouldn't you?
If just going .500 is enough then they can do that by watering down their preseason schedule to get 8 or 9 wins. And I would not put that by Barta and Lickliter at all after listening to Lickliter whine about the schedule this year.
Win 4 or 5 games in the Big 10 and Iowa has 13 or 14 wins and Barta claims that Lickliter is making substantial progress overall and Lickliter has another season hands down because HE sees REAL improvement.
HE will blame the fans then for not backing the team and the program for not showing up at games even though the preseason was not worth spending the money on and they really didn't do much in the Big 10 and still finished in or near last place.
As many problems as there are in the program right now, I don't know that I go along with a change at the top. I think that would be automatic disaster...whereas I have not yet given up on Todd as Iowas coach. I want to see this team next year, to see this team with a core group of veterans, no key defections, with an infusion of young talent. Next year pays for all, IMO...and that doesnt have to mean an NIT bid...just get back to at least .500 and be competitive...that is going in the right direction