Do we Need more Basketball News??

hawkjunkie

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Is it just me, or are we all starving for some more bball news?? I am not even into football, and we will have a good-to-great team?! I got the bball itch, I guess(I blame Fran). I cannot help but to keep waiting for a new recruit!? I just want this next class to fill up.... Then get stoked for the upcoming season!

The Hawkeyes are coming in from the shadows. We are expected to finish low, considering our experience & talent. I think we will do some serious damage....and I cannot wait to see it!!

On Iowa!
 
No news, is good news for Iowa hoops IMO. Recruiting hasn't gone great and player issues.

I'm ready for football though. Basketball team's monumental collapse is going to leave a bad taste for a lot until they prove it was just a fluke. So the low expectations are reasonable. I'm not buying into the hype Fran is selling until they show more consistently. I'll wait and see what they do before I get excited. Got burned last season for buying into the hype.
 
Is it just me, or are we all starving for some more bball news?? I am not even into football, and we will have a good-to-great team?! I got the bball itch, I guess(I blame Fran). I cannot help but to keep waiting for a new recruit!? I just want this next class to fill up.... Then get stoked for the upcoming season!

The Hawkeyes are coming in from the shadows. We are expected to finish low, considering our experience & talent. I think we will do some serious damage....and I cannot wait to see it!!

On Iowa!

i am not.
 
Is it just me, or are we all starving for some more bball news?? I am not even into football, and we will have a good-to-great team?! I got the bball itch, I guess(I blame Fran). I cannot help but to keep waiting for a new recruit!? I just want this next class to fill up.... Then get stoked for the upcoming season!

The Hawkeyes are coming in from the shadows. We are expected to finish low, considering our experience & talent. I think we will do some serious damage....and I cannot wait to see it!!

On Iowa!
Be patient. We might get a recruit before November. Woody and MG go to Europe in August. Other than that, no news is probably good news. Stability can be half the battle- see Peter Jok.
 
Pumped for football. I still like to keep on on Basketball, and soak in anything related to Iowa football or basketball. Yet it is football season, and I'm getting excited for tailgates, and saturdays full of Iowa football, and college football.
 
Not really in any mood for bb. I feel like I got burned as bad as sd did last year. Bb was a bad let down.
 
Football is more fun because of the weekend festivities it includes, but I'm a basketball first guy. The end of the year letdown was tough to go through, but I'm still excited about this years team. On the news front, I hope it's quiet for a while.
 
I've got some news here! A Iowa State Fan came to me in Lowe's and poke me in my chest and I told him I'm deaf and he took off his hat and showed me his Iowa State hat and said I'm the Iowa State Clowns fan. He thought I was Iowa State fan just because I was wearing Iowa State t-shirt that my daughter has given to me. I told him No I'm not a fan , Hahahaha NOOOO way
I told him my daughter is going to school but I'm not a fan. WELCOME TO B1G,MARYLAND AND RUTGERS!
So Excited!
 
Dead period for bb, outside of the AAU tournys. The recruiting game is all that matters until practice starts. Come September/Oct, the recruits will be committing....that is the next excitement period for BB.

All the speculation about certain recruits is pure speculation, and is barely enough to keep fans interested when we end up not landing most of them.

With Jok's issues , I think expectations will be properly lowered going into the season....Iowa will struggle to finish in the top 8 in the league, but if that gets them a bid...great.
That's it for me.
 
not really, total football news now.

If the football season is going great by the time hawks start bball practice then that will be a nice sidelight.

I am expecting at least 8 fball wins and maybe a bowl win.
 
not really, total football news now.

If the football season is going great by the time hawks start bball practice then that will be a nice sidelight.

I am expecting at least 8 fball wins and maybe a bowl win.

I am expecting at least ten wins with the schedule we have and an offense that should be pretty powerful.

In my opinion Fran has to make it happen in the next two years as Iowans are a pretty savvy fan base. That will have given six years of getting his system ingrained and the type of recruits he wants. There be no excuses the season after this one. It is troubling how you can have a senior/junior laden team last year and have the type of collapse you would expect from a sophomore/freshmen ladened team. I am still excited for the basketball program at this point but when Woodbury is a senior we better not be talking about 8th place finishes in the conference.

It's ok to be supportive of sports programs but accepting and expecting mediocrity every year is the sign of people who are probably not very competitive or successful in life. See; Chicago Cubs. I don't expect national championships every year from the basketball and football programs but I do think Iowa is good enough to win the conference title at least one out of every four or five years and to compete for a title at least two out of every five years. Iowa is a good enough school for that in my opinion.
 
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I am expecting at least ten wins with the schedule we have and an offense that should be pretty powerful.

In my opinion Fran has to make it happen in the next two years as Iowans are a pretty savvy fan base. That will have given six years of getting his system ingrained and the type of recruits he wants. There be no excuses the season after this one. It is troubling how you can have a senior/junior laden team last year and have the type of collapse you would expect from a sophomore/freshmen ladened team. I am still excited for the basketball program at this point but when Woodbury is a senior we better not be talking about 8th place finishes in the conference.

It's ok to be supportive of sports programs but accepting and expecting mediocrity every year is the sign of people who are probably not very competitive or successful in life. See; Chicago Cubs. I don't expect national championships every year from the basketball or basketball programs but I do think Iowa is good enough to win the conference title at least one out of every four or five years and to compete for a title at least two out of every five years. Iowa is a good enough school for that in my opinion.

I am always intrigued by the fan with high expectations that plays those expectations off as not that much to ask.

Do we have a history of winning or tying for a regular season conference title every 4 or 5 years that I am not aware of prior to Fran? When was our last regular season title? Was that Lute Olson dating back 30+ years and 5 coaches ago?

Where is the hard data that turning over coaches nets met expectations with the next coach? For every success story I would bet there are 20 flops. Is turnover really the sole blue print for success alone? Just fire someone and the next guy will be begging to coach here and quickly help us meet high expectations. Is it really that simple? Then after doing this he will stay for life like Olson.
 
I am always intrigued by the fan with high expectations that plays those expectations off as not that much to ask.

Do we have a history of winning or tying for a regular season conference title every 4 or 5 years that I am not aware of prior to Fran? When was our last regular season title? Was that Lute Olson dating back 30+ years and 5 coaches ago?

Where is the hard data that turning over coaches nets met expectations with the next coach? For every success story I would bet there are 20 flops. Is turnover really the sole blue print for success alone? Just fire someone and the next guy will be begging to coach here and quickly help us meet high expectations. Is it really that simple? Then after doing this he will stay for life like Olson.

I am not saying to get rid of anyone. As far as Fran goes we will have a good idea within two years if his program is going to be successful or not. If it doesn't work out then it doesn't work out. I've always supported the coaching staffs and wish them nothing but the best. If it works out that we look at seventh or eighth place finishes over the next two or three years then that is alright with you??? Hayden broke that mindset in football that we weren't good enough. He deliberately changed the mindset of "oh well we are just little ole Iowa and we can't do better." I say we are Iowa and we can do better. It's time for trends and history to change in Iowa's favor. People have got to stop thinking we can't ever be good enough and start saying we are good enough. We are Iowa.
 
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In some of the interviews with Hayden he states that that the goal was to get a winning mindset in the football program. He says attitude is everything. He changed the uniforms to reflect the Pittsburg Steeler uniforms because of the winning and success of the Steelers at the time. He instilled in his players a winning attitude and this brought the football program out of the black hole it was in.
 
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All great points but what often goes overlooked is a strong AD, President, and big time university backing of athletics really helped. Hayden walked in with the right plan at the right time. Much has changed since that point. As an example players were not arrested on mopeds and treated like felons. The university no longer supports athletics due to jealousy over salaries and money made.

If it was so easy as to change team colors and say hey we are going to have a winning attitude would this not be adopted by every program?

Everything has to be in your favor to run a winning program.

Everything becomes folklore after you win.
 
All great points but what often goes overlooked is a strong AD, President, and big time university backing of athletics really helped. Hayden walked in with the right plan at the right time. Much has changed since that point. As an example players were not arrested on mopeds and treated like felons. The university no longer supports athletics due to jealousy over salaries and money made.

If it was so easy as to change team colors and say hey we are going to have a winning attitude would this not be adopted by every program?

Everything has to be in your favor to run a winning program.

Everything becomes folklore after you win.


Good opinions from both you and BigD. I suppose my opinion would align closer to BigD's and for these reasons.

If there is the disconnect between the administration, if our AD isn't strong, as you state, then it is up to the fans to make their expectations known in order to facilitate bridging the disconnect. Big doners are fans also, so they are either in line with the administration or have to set their expectations by not donating, if unsatisfied.

The average Joe fan can stop paying for tickets, which affects concessions and they can stop buy apparel, if their expectations aren't met. But, you need to have expectations. To BigD's point, 10 wins next season is my minium expectation. We should be a good team next year and, let's not forget that the 2013 team was well on their way to 13 or 14 wins before they fell apart. I am not going to be fooled by their 9 win season.

As for Hayden, yep, he came in at a great time. But, it worked because he set expectations. Remember back to Iowa going on the road and playing Oklahoma really close, but losing. Hayden was all-fired P.O'd. when the players were feeling good about a close loss. That has nothing to do with the administration, the AD or anyone else. That was Hayden and his expections to win, not play tough teams close.
 

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