DJK Helmet issue

Imlivingthedream said:
Kirk came off as a ***** not letting Derrell wear an Iowa helmet.

In the minds of the vast majority of Hawkeye fans he still is and will always be a Hawkeye.

Derrell cost himself hundreds of thosuands of dollars with his bonehead decisions but he still graduated from Iowa and is the best receiver of the Ferentz or Fry era.

Dwight was a better return guy, but Derrell is the best wr. You can look it up.
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I disagree with the notion that DJK was "great". He was never a game breaker, he was never a guy who put the fear of God into opposing defenses, he never took over a game by himself, he never dominated opposing defensive backs, and he was never one of the top WR in the league.

He made some plays, he had some numbers, but they were more a result of longevity rather than game. He is like Juice Williams that way; Super hyped, played forever, had huge numbers, never dominated.
 
Iowafarmgirl said:
I disagree with the notion that DJK was "great". He was never a game breaker, he was never a guy who put the fear of God into opposing defenses, he never took over a game by himself, he never dominated opposing defensive backs, and he was never one of the top WR in the league.

He made some plays, he had some numbers, but they were more a result of longevity rather than game. He is like Juice Williams that way; Super hyped, played forever, had huge numbers, never dominated.
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he suffered due to lousy Qb play for three of the years he started. Neither Christensen or Stanzi of two seasons ago will ever be mentioned in any "alltime most accurate Iowa passers."

he could have dominated this year if we didnt insist on running the ball for most of the season into 8 or 9 man fronts.

oh and if he was never one of the top wr in the league..how did he make the coaches all conference team?

you must know more about talent than the big ten coaches.
 
Imlivingthedream said:
he suffered due to lousy Qb play for three of the years he started. Neither Christensen or Stanzi of two seasons ago will ever be mentioned in any "alltime most accurate Iowa passers."

he could have dominated this year if we didnt insist on running the ball for most of the season into 8 or 9 man fronts.

oh and if he was never one of the top wr in the league..how did he make the coaches all conference team?

you must know more about talent than the big ten coaches.
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Gimme a break. That was weak sauce.

Also, DJK was second team coaches in 2009. That's one season. McNutt was on this year's coaches team, while DJK was not. That's hardly the wrap sheet for a "dominant" reciever. He was pretty good, but never great.
 
Iowafarmgirl said:
I disagree with the notion that DJK was "great". He was never a game breaker, he was never a guy who put the fear of God into opposing defenses, he never took over a game by himself, he never dominated opposing defensive backs, and he was never one of the top WR in the league.

He made some plays, he had some numbers, but they were more a result of longevity rather than game. He is like Juice Williams that way; Super hyped, played forever, had huge numbers, never dominated.
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To funny. Now go help someone out of a snowdrift and show them your a real friend.
 
HawkPrdatr40 said:
To funny. Now go help someone out of a snowdrift and show them your a real friend.
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No doubt or better yet, pull your head out of the snowdrift. Breaking a record means that you did something that no other person has done before you.

As for the poster that questioned who had done things worse and still played as a Hawkeye. DJK was convicted of possession. It does not matter what the original charges were as it is the conviction that indicates guilt and possession is a pretty minor offense.

Broderick Binns, UI football, drunken driving (2010)
Jewel Hampton, UI football, public intoxication (2010)
Jordan Bernstine, UI football, public intoxication (2010)
James Ferentz, UI football, public intoxication (2009); possession of alcohol under the legal age (2008)
Adrian Clayborn, UI football, assault causing injury (2009)
Zachary Derby, UI football, public intoxication (2009)
Kyle Calloway, UI football, drunken driving (2009)
Shaun Prater, UI football, drunken driving (2009)
Tyler Christensen, UI football, public intoxication/criminal mischief (2009)

The above are just a few of the football players charged with a crime that went on to wear the Hawkeye helmet. Now I do believe that drunken driving is more dangerous than possession. Oh and what about Assualt Causing Injury? Give me a break, DJK deserved to wear the Hawkeye helmet as much as these guys listed above.
 
TheNebraskaHawk said:
No doubt or better yet, pull your head out of the snowdrift. Breaking a record means that you did something that no other person has done before you.

As for the poster that questioned who had done things worse and still played as a Hawkeye. DJK was convicted of possession. It does not matter what the original charges were as it is the conviction that indicates guilt and possession is a pretty minor offense.

Broderick Binns, UI football, drunken driving (2010)
Jewel Hampton, UI football, public intoxication (2010)
Jordan Bernstine, UI football, public intoxication (2010)
James Ferentz, UI football, public intoxication (2009); possession of alcohol under the legal age (2008)
Adrian Clayborn, UI football, assault causing injury (2009)
Zachary Derby, UI football, public intoxication (2009)
Kyle Calloway, UI football, drunken driving (2009)
Shaun Prater, UI football, drunken driving (2009)
Tyler Christensen, UI football, public intoxication/criminal mischief (2009)

The above are just a few of the football players charged with a crime that went on to wear the Hawkeye helmet. Now I do believe that drunken driving is more dangerous than possession. Oh and what about Assualt Causing Injury? Give me a break, DJK deserved to wear the Hawkeye helmet as much as these guys listed above.
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Bob Sanders OWI
 
TheNebraskaHawk said:
No doubt or better yet, pull your head out of the snowdrift. Breaking a record means that you did something that no other person has done before you.

As for the poster that questioned who had done things worse and still played as a Hawkeye. DJK was convicted of possession. It does not matter what the original charges were as it is the conviction that indicates guilt and possession is a pretty minor offense.

Broderick Binns, UI football, drunken driving (2010)
Jewel Hampton, UI football, public intoxication (2010)
Jordan Bernstine, UI football, public intoxication (2010)
James Ferentz, UI football, public intoxication (2009); possession of alcohol under the legal age (2008)
Adrian Clayborn, UI football, assault causing injury (2009)
Zachary Derby, UI football, public intoxication (2009)
Kyle Calloway, UI football, drunken driving (2009)
Shaun Prater, UI football, drunken driving (2009)
Tyler Christensen, UI football, public intoxication/criminal mischief (2009)

The above are just a few of the football players charged with a crime that went on to wear the Hawkeye helmet. Now I do believe that drunken driving is more dangerous than possession. Oh and what about Assualt Causing Injury? Give me a break, DJK deserved to wear the Hawkeye helmet as much as these guys listed above.
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True that DJK was convicted of possession.

But it's also common knowledge through the police reports and his own admissions that he was guilty of a lot more than possessing a little pot.

He didn't leave Ferentz much choice.
 
hawkdrummer1 said:
True that DJK was convicted of possession.

But it's also common knowledge through the police reports and his own admissions that he was guilty of a lot more than possessing a little pot.

He didn't leave Ferentz much choice.
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This. He confessed to more than just pot.
 
Iowafarmgirl said:
Ooop, my bad. I even looked at that exact same link hours ago, and must have missed him. Previous statements withdrawn.
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That did have a lot to do with his TD numbers. I believe he tied for the league lead, and did it with one fewer game.
 
Imlivingthedream said:
Iowa farm girl must be a troll.

Big Ten Announces 2010 Football All-Conference Teams and Individual Honors - BIG TEN OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE

Derrell was first team all big ten coaches this year.
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Pretty easy to distinguish. Derrell was a member of the Iowa football team when he earned those honors. Due to poor decision-making on his part, he was kicked off that team and out of the program at the end of the year prior to the bowl game.

There's more to that than just words: DJK presumably was removed from the provisions of his scholarship and from the various protections afforded by the university and its football program, especially health and injury insurance coverage. The university would have found itself in a predicament had DJK, no longer part of the program, been injured participating in the Texas/Nation festivities and game while wearing Hawkeye gear or appearing to represent the Iowa program.

This likely had very little to do with Ferentz or how he felt about DJK's actions.
 
If I were DJK I would have worn a hawkeye helmet without the tigerhawk.

Or I would have worn an Ohio State helmet to show my home state... but that's just me.
 
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