Delany: "There ought to be consequences" for Cam Newton

HandsyHobo

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/03auburn.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=jim delany&st=cse

Delany, a former N.C.A.A. investigator who is familiar with its nuances, said in a telephone interview that the N.C.A.A. “missed an opportunity to stand up.â€￾

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Delany’s main complaint was with the N.C.A.A.’s use of the rule-of-agency principle — when a person is authorized to act on someone else’s behalf. The N.C.A.A. acknowledged that Newton’s father, Cecil Newton Sr., used a person with financial ties to an agent to shop his son to Mississippi State. But because Cam Newton attended Auburn and the N.C.A.A. has not found that he or Auburn had knowledge of his father’s actions, it declared Newton eligible for Saturday’s game against South Carolina.

“Here, who is closer to a player than the parent?â€￾ Delany said. “If that person is found to be shopping that player, I think the rule-of-agency principle could easily apply. I would argue in the environment we’re in that it should apply.â€￾
 
The S.E.C. is an absolute joke and so is the NCAA for its lack of consistency on matters of this case.

But I would argue, you Jim Delaney missed a chance to stand up.

You could have issued an immediate statement that you believe the SEC to not be acting above water and that as such, Big 10 schools will no longer compete against the SEC starting after this years Bowl season.

You could have stated that the Big 10 will be withdrawing from the BCS until the SEC is cleaned up.

I bet the Pac 12 would have gone with you, and so would have the Rose Bowl committee.

I bet the Big 12 who has its own issues with the bizarre handling of Dez Bryant may have too.

You Jim Delaney have more power than you realize, but if your goal is to level the playing field on recruiting, you should have just opted out of having anything to do with the SEC.
 
The S.E.C. is an absolute joke and so is the NCAA for its lack of consistency on matters of this case.

But I would argue, you Jim Delaney missed a chance to stand up.

You could have issued an immediate statement that you believe the SEC to not be acting above water and that as such, Big 10 schools will no longer compete against the SEC starting after this years Bowl season.

You could have stated that the Big 10 will be withdrawing from the BCS until the SEC is cleaned up.

I bet the Pac 12 would have gone with you, and so would have the Rose Bowl committee.

I bet the Big 12 who has its own issues with the bizarre handling of Dez Bryant may have too.

You Jim Delaney have more power than you realize, but if your goal is to level the playing field on recruiting, you should have just opted out of having anything to do with the SEC.
Excellent post!
 
I'm not sure about leaving the BCS and all that but I do agree that Delaney could have spoken in harder terms. The word 'Travesty' comes to mind. I have to say that this really does make a joke of not just the NCAA or SEC but college football in general. When the powers that be see them cheating, catch them cheating and then just throw up their hands and say - "what are ya gonna do?" then you lose all credibility.
 
LATRANS - the BCS would IMPLODE without the Big 10. Even if the SEC has better teams on a regular basis, the biggest city in their footprint is ATLANTA. I mean listen to these tv markets in the SEC:

Atlanta
Columbia, SC
Birmingham, AL
Jackson, MS
Baton Rouge, NOLA, LA
Tampa, JAX FL
Little Rock, AR
Nashville, Memphis TN
and freakin Louisville...

Now compare that to:

Chicago
Minneapolis
Des Moines
Omaha/Lincoln
Madison/Milwaukee
Indianapolis
Detroit/Grand Rapids
Columbus, Cleveland, Cinci
Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and one could argue that Penn State has a major reach into NYC.

It is a joke, that is why the Big 10 is the most powerful conference in any sport.

Without the Big 10 tv footprint, the BCS would be a disaster... it would be easier for them to kick out the SEC than to lose the Big 10.
 
The NCAA is a joke. Its a BS organization worth billions. The Big 10 and others should say we are done with you.
 
The S.E.C. is an absolute joke and so is the NCAA for its lack of consistency on matters of this case.

But I would argue, you Jim Delaney missed a chance to stand up.

You could have issued an immediate statement that you believe the SEC to not be acting above water and that as such, Big 10 schools will no longer compete against the SEC starting after this years Bowl season.

You could have stated that the Big 10 will be withdrawing from the BCS until the SEC is cleaned up.

I bet the Pac 12 would have gone with you, and so would have the Rose Bowl committee.

I bet the Big 12 who has its own issues with the bizarre handling of Dez Bryant may have too.

You Jim Delaney have more power than you realize, but if your goal is to level the playing field on recruiting, you should have just opted out of having anything to do with the SEC.


Holy Over-reaction Batman!
 
I think the reason that he hasn't been suspended, etc. is simply because they are in the top 2 and they don't want TCU to play for the MNC and throw a wrench in to their "perfect system".
 
I think the reason that he hasn't been suspended, etc. is simply because they are in the top 2 and they don't want TCU to play for the MNC and throw a wrench in to their "perfect system".

Which is why I hope to God that South Carolina pulls off the upset.
 
LATRANS - the BCS would IMPLODE without the Big 10. Even if the SEC has better teams on a regular basis, the biggest city in their footprint is ATLANTA. I mean listen to these tv markets in the SEC:

Atlanta
Columbia, SC
Birmingham, AL
Jackson, MS
Baton Rouge, NOLA, LA
Tampa, JAX FL
Little Rock, AR
Nashville, Memphis TN
and freakin Louisville...

Now compare that to:

Chicago
Minneapolis
Des Moines
Omaha/Lincoln
Madison/Milwaukee
Indianapolis
Detroit/Grand Rapids
Columbus, Cleveland, Cinci
Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and one could argue that Penn State has a major reach into NYC.

It is a joke, that is why the Big 10 is the most powerful conference in any sport.

Without the Big 10 tv footprint, the BCS would be a disaster... it would be easier for them to kick out the SEC than to lose the Big 10.


Dude, you are friggin' dilusional.

No disrespect.
 
the SEC doesnt get to count Miami and Orlando ?

I think the Florida Gators are pretty big there lol
 
No offense, but if Cam was playing at a 12-0 Iowa squad, headed to a NCG, we'd probably be siding with him on this one. It pisses me off, I won't deny that, but at the same time, I don't pretend that if Cam was one of our guys, we'd be sad or angry about the ruling.

Anyway, I do believe that there should be consequences, as this ruling pretty much opens up the possibility for parents to shop around and essentially sell their sons to schools, and get away with it without consequences as long as the kid and the school can't be shown to know about the deals.
 
I disagree with the use of rule-of-agency across the board ... it could easily be the case that a parent tries to make a buck off the kid without the kid's knowledge ... there are a lot of ******-bag parents in the world. That said, it should certainly continue to be investigated, and I think it will be. I sincerely doubt Cam plays in the bowl game.
 

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