Delaney & college football playoff

[Win5002]

If the only reason Delaney and Scott are not on board with the college football playoff is the conference champions, I can support that and I think they could get the rest of the conferences besides SEC, Big 12 & ND to side with them because it gives a better chance of access to the leagues that won't make it each year such as ACC, Big East & MWC.

But if it is to preserve the Rose Bowl and have a plus one scenario, that is pathetic. In that case if I was the Big 12 & SEC I would do the same getting ND and the rest of the conferences and go ahead with the playoff with out them. In this case the Big 12 & SEC would be holding the cards because everyone outside of the B1G & PAC 12 would be for the playoff. At worst case they would have to do is expand it to 8 so the ACC the conferences that don't always get a participant in have a better shot.

To make the stupid Rose Bowl even more worthless I would do what I heard a radio guy suggest. Play the two semi-final games during the Rose Bowl. Have one that starts and would end at about halftime and have another that starts right after that one is finished. Then the Rose Bowl wouldn't be worth all that much to the two leagues.

 

[cmhawks99]

Well keep in mind there are several guys on here that can’t help but mention the Rose Bowl every time Iowa loses. I personally don’t care that much about “the” Rose Bowl….. BCS’s bowls and then best available competition, preferably SEC or Big 12 is my next biggest desire come post season.

With that said Im a fan of the bowls, ALL the bowls. I would like to see a 4 or even 8 team playoff, but not at the expense of compromising the other bowl games. I watch them all.

 

[Hawknigh]

Well keep in mind there are several guys on here that can’t help but mention the Rose Bowl every time Iowa loses. I personally don’t care that much about “theâ€￾ Rose Bowl….. BCS’s bowls and then best available competition, preferably SEC or Big 12 is my next biggest desire come post season.

With that said Im a fan of the bowls, ALL the bowls. I would like to see a 4 or even 8 team playoff, but not at the expense of compromising the other bowl games. I watch them all.

I'm afraid that any playoff is the beginning of the end of the bowls! They may try to save them in name, but they will be hollow once a true playoff system gets in place.

 

[hawkfan340]

I'm afraid that any playoff is the beginning of the end of the bowls! They may try to save them in name, but they will be hollow once a true playoff system gets in place.

They are already hollow compared to what they used to be.

The current bowl system is like hanging out with Bernie for the weekend.

 

[Herkuleez]

A true 16 team NFL-style playoff is what I would love to see.

No more CCGs.

Just take the two division champs from each of the "big six" conferences...then the final four spots based on at large rankings. Special caveat is that no conference can have more than 3 schools selected.

Bowls are pretty much dead in my scenario....unless they're willing to accept taking the 3rd/4th place finishers as their contestants.

 

[GhostofBTT]

I would like to see a 4 or even 8 team playoff, but not at the expense of compromising the other bowl games. I watch them all.[/FONT][/COLOR]

You know how I know you're a compulsive gambler?

 

[Hawknigh]

They are already hollow compared to what they used to be.

The current bowl system is like hanging out with Bernie for the weekend.

There seem to be about 20,000 fans who disagree with you each January.

 

[Win5002]

the bowls should be nothing more than a glorified NIT for college football, they are completely meaningless. It becomes nothing more than southern or western tourism sites making money off stupid northern tourists. And college football has decided its champion this way for years, absolutely stupid.

Let the conferences make their own money. Play conference semi-final and conference championship games and only conference champs advance. Make the playoffs about getting a true national champion someone who won a conference. If conferences don't change to major realignment let at least 6 teams in and let the top ranked two get a bye.

 

[Foval21]

They are already hollow compared to what they used to be.The current bowl system is like hanging out with Bernie for the weekend.

There seem to be about 20,000 fans who disagree with you each January.

just because lots of people watch doesnt mean they arent hollow in comparison to what they used to be. we just have so many fb fans they will watch any football game...i mean look at how many people watch spring games and nfl preseason games and those mean a lot less than a bowl game.

 

[cmhawks99]

You know how I know you're a compulsive gambler?

Well I think you’re probably joking, but just in case, I do not gamble and haven’t in years. Don’t go to the boat and don’t even play 4 point pitch for money anymore and that used to be my thing. Anywhooo….for those who think the bowls are meaningless or hollow, they aren’t too me and quite frankly it seems I am far, far from alone. For every one person on here that pooh-poohs them it seems there are 100 more that still love ANY college football. I’ll watch Troy play San Jose St, and I do play college fantasy football including bowl game fantasy football so that is a form of gambling I suppose, but I only play free leagues. I enjoy following all the obscure players and teams and again…I’m clearly not alone.

 

[cmhawks99]

the bowls should be nothing more than a glorified NIT for college football, they are completely meaningless. It becomes nothing more than southern or western tourism sites making money off stupid northern tourists. And college football has decided its champion this way for years, absolutely stupid.

Let the conferences make their own money. Play conference semi-final and conference championship games and only conference champs advance. Make the playoffs about getting a true national champion someone who won a conference. If conferences don't change to major realignment let at least 6 teams in and let the top ranked two get a bye.

I would agree there are a lot of bowl games and yes maybe too many, but let’s also keep in mind it is a reward for the players and their families and at one time they were reserved for pretty much “justâ€￾ the big conference teams…For instance in 1988 there were 17 bowl games. Wyoming, BYU (were very successful and recognized) Houston (which was still SWC back then I believe) Army (where fairly relevant back then) Southern Miss (Brett Favre era) UTEP, Fresno St and Western Michigan….were the only teams not from major conferences and you’d have to admit ALL this exposure (which this glutton of bowls has contributed too) has helped a lot of these smaller teams and leagues greatly improve their portfolio.

So again, it’s been good for College Football as a whole.

 

[HawkeyeShane]

Bowl games cannot and will not go away...nor should they. You can have a playoff, I'm all for that, but the bowl system is here to stay as well it should, for the good of the college game.

 

[herkyattack]

Personally, I like the plus one system. Keep the BCS bowls intact (Rose- B1G vs Pac, "Champions Bowl" aka Sugar Bowl- SEC vs Big 12, Orange & Fiesta- Other conference champ vs At-large). Have a committee select the participants of the Orange and Fiesta Bowls, factoring in record, play down the stretch, strength of schedule, etc. Stagger all these games on Jan 1st, the way it should be. On Jan 2nd, the committee meets again and selects the participants of the championship game in a similar fashion as previously noted. Play the teo weeks later on MLK day. Bid out the location of the championship game, and keep the rest of the bowl season intact (except all games should be finished by Dec 31).

 

[DwayneTwill]

The Rose Bowl is the best. A plus-one would be the best possible scenario.

 

[kuhntz]

Playoffs will ruin what makes college football so much more special than ever other sport. The regular season matters, every game matters. The call for bigger and more inclusive playoffs is already underway...just read this thread.

I already have the NFL for a worthless regular season and bloated playoffs. Do not ruin college football.

 

[Xerxes]

Playoffs will ruin what makes college football so much more special than ever other sport. The regular season matters, every game matters. The call for bigger and more inclusive playoffs is already underway...just read this thread.

I already have the NFL for a worthless regular season and bloated playoffs. Do not ruin college football.[/QUOTE]

The last two SuperBowl champions got into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth.

In 2010 GB got into the playoffs because DeShawn Jackson's crazy punt return against the Giants and winning their final two games. Had that Eagles/Giants game gone the other way GB doesn't even make the playoffs even with GB's win over the Giants the week after the Giants/Eagles game.

Last season the Giants won the season finale against Dallas to win the division and off they went. They lose that game they stay home.

You can make a strong arguement that the NFL regular season is much more important late than college's regular season is because as the season progresses less and less teams are relevent in college football (only the unbeatens and a couple 1 loss teams maybe).

In the NFL several teams are always fighting for playoff spots which makes several games very meaningful as the season is nearing an end.

 

[DwayneTwill]

Playoffs will ruin college football. It's better for the best team in the country to win the championship rather than a team that squeaks into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth.

 

[cmhawks99]

Playoffs will ruin what makes college football so much more special than ever other sport. The regular season matters, every game matters. The call for bigger and more inclusive playoffs is already underway...just read this thread.

I already have the NFL for a worthless regular season and bloated playoffs. Do not ruin college football.[/QUOTE]

The last two SuperBowl champions got into the playoffs by the skin of their teeth.

In 2010 GB got into the playoffs because DeShawn Jackson's crazy punt return against the Giants and winning their final two games. Had that Eagles/Giants game gone the other way GB doesn't even make the playoffs even with GB's win over the Giants the week after the Giants/Eagles game.

Last season the Giants won the season finale against Dallas to win the division and off they went. They lose that game they stay home.

You can make a strong arguement that the NFL regular season is much more important late than college's regular season is because as the season progresses less and less teams are relevent in college football (only the unbeatens and a couple 1 loss teams maybe).

In the NFL several teams are always fighting for playoff spots which makes several games very meaningful as the season is nearing an end.

Although I dig a team getting hot late and winning it all, I believe what you just said IS his main argument against. Meaning it makes the regular season less meaningful because you can lose some game and still get in a playoff where as now, you can typically only lose one at most Sometimes 2!

 

[Xerxes]

Although I dig a team getting hot late and winning it all, I believe what you just said IS his main argument against. Meaning it makes the regular season less meaningful because you can lose some game and still get in a playoff where as now, you can typically only lose one at most Sometimes 2!

Yeah, I may have made a point for the arguement against but it really all depends on what you consider an important regular season game.

My main point is that college football's regular season is vital as long as you're undefeated or a 1 loss SEC team. The number of those teams quickly dwindle as the season goes along.

Once you lose a game, that team isn't relevent on a national level unless they are playing an undefeated team and then you go right back to non-relevent after that game is over.

If the NFL, that is not the case. Losing hurts your playoff chances badly but your regular season games are still important after a loss/losses as you need to be the best team in your division or one of the top 2 non-division winners to get in the playoffs.

 

[Hawknigh]

Playoffs will ruin what makes college football so much more special than ever other sport. The regular season matters, every game matters. The call for bigger and more inclusive playoffs is already underway...just read this thread.

I already have the NFL for a worthless regular season and bloated playoffs. Do not ruin college football.

I agree. I love the current system.

And I care much more about conference championships than who wins the national championship.