Defensive break downs.

[Bigtenchamp]

This is the second straight game I've seen our defense completely break down in the 2nd half.

1. Coaching and strategy - these trapping defenses that McCaffery plays are not very good defenses when you have a big lead. They CAN speed up the game if the other team decides to be aggressive and with decent penetration and ball movement they lead to wide open shots.

2. Player intelligence and poise - we really are bad at breaking down at the end of the shot clock - we overextend, panic, fly out to mid court for no reason and leave huge driving lanes for the opposition.

I still think much of it is on the players but after watching two games of this (and thinking of last year) a lot of it is on McCaffery.

Once we were up by 17 we should have went into a 2-3 zone and not a defense trapping at half court leaving wide open lanes to the basket.

 

[mopkins]

I was at the game tonight so dont have the benefit of instant replay but from what I could see they were actually in a zone for a lot of that second half when they were up big and minnesota just torched it with 3s. To me it looked like a lot of guys just out of position. Minnesota's bigs were not doing much at all against Iowa but they'd just leave hollins wide open in the corner or King wide open outside. It was mind boggling at times and eventually Fran went man and the 3s stopped dropping.

I personally like that aggressive half court trap that they were running towards the end. It was pressure on the ball constantly which yeah it allows for some easy layups but it seemed to shut down the 3s as well towards the end.

Again I was there in person so didnt have the greatest of angles, but thats what I saw. The gophers just lit up the drop back zone

 

[sodakhawkeye]

we did go zone and they hit consecutive 3's.

the only trapping we did was on ball screens.

 

[knighthawk13]

I have no clue why Woody and Gabe play defense 25 feet from the hoop. They gave up some offensive boards and easy layups because they were out of position. This is obviously something Fran likes, but I'm not sure why.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

This is the second straight game I've seen our defense completely break down in the 2nd half.

1. Coaching and strategy - these trapping defenses that McCaffery plays are not very good defenses when you have a big lead. They CAN speed up the game if the other team decides to be aggressive and with decent penetration and ball movement they lead to wide open shots.

2. Player intelligence and poise - we really are bad at breaking down at the end of the shot clock - we overextend, panic, fly out to mid court for no reason and leave huge driving lanes for the opposition.

I still think much of it is on the players but after watching two games of this (and thinking of last year) a lot of it is on McCaffery.

Once we were up by 17 we should have went into a 2-3 zone and not a defense trapping at half court leaving wide open lanes to the basket.

We were, Gabe came in and Minnesota got 3 straight looks right at the rim and hit then hit a couple of 3's and we got out of it.

 

[uihawk82]

This is the second straight game I've seen our defense completely break down in the 2nd half.

1. Coaching and strategy - these trapping defenses that McCaffery plays are not very good defenses when you have a big lead. They CAN speed up the game if the other team decides to be aggressive and with decent penetration and ball movement they lead to wide open shots.

2. Player intelligence and poise - we really are bad at breaking down at the end of the shot clock - we overextend, panic, fly out to mid court for no reason and leave huge driving lanes for the opposition.

I still think much of it is on the players but after watching two games of this (and thinking of last year) a lot of it is on McCaffery.

Once we were up by 17 we should have went into a 2-3 zone and not a defense trapping at half court leaving wide open lanes to the basket.

Not sure what game you were watching in the second half but we did not use the real 1-3-1 trap zone until the last 5 minutes or so of the second half and it really helped get minny out of their comfort zone.

hey, our centers played the high ball screen great in the first half, they hedged enough to make the dribbler stop and divert farther out then our centers hustled back. In the second half Minny countered that by quick ball reversal dribbles and passes which bit us and left them with wide open 3's. and our players didnt look as quick against the dribble penetration.

Dont confuse a high ball screen hedge with a real trapping defense.

In the first half the hawks seemed to play with a half step more intensity and anticipation which gets to your point on player intelligence and poise.

We looked more passive and chased them in the second half.

the 1-3-1 really helped in the last part of the second half.

It also helped that we fouled two of their worst free throw shooters who clunked the front end.

 

[PCHawk]

I want to know how it's possible to have it in your head all week that we need to improve in the second half and the very first possession we leave a guy so open that no one is within 5 feet of him when he shoots it. If it happened after the 3rd or 4th possession it's understandable. But on the 1st possession? After the week they had? How did they let that happen?

 

[SnapBack2]

This is the second straight game I've seen our defense completely break down in the 2nd half.

1. Coaching and strategy - these trapping defenses that McCaffery plays are not very good defenses when you have a big lead. They CAN speed up the game if the other team decides to be aggressive and with decent penetration and ball movement they lead to wide open shots.

2. Player intelligence and poise - we really are bad at breaking down at the end of the shot clock - we overextend, panic, fly out to mid court for no reason and leave huge driving lanes for the opposition.

I still think much of it is on the players but after watching two games of this (and thinking of last year) a lot of it is on McCaffery.

Once we were up by 17 we should have went into a 2-3 zone and not a defense trapping at half court leaving wide open lanes to the basket.

I agree with the other posters. Not sure what game you were watching, but it was pretty much the opposite of your post. The 2-3 zone was awful.

 

[Casey388]

I would be fine with no zone being played in the second half of any of our games for the rest of the year. It seems like we have our energy level isn't quite there enough to close out on shooters quick enough. In the 1st half its fine as we are ready to go. But I think we need to just stay in man, or do man on misses and our half or 3/4 trap defense on makes. I am just so sick of seeing made three after made three on us.

 

[WindsorHawk]

I want to know how it's possible to have it in your head all week that we need to improve in the second half and the very first possession we leave a guy so open that no one is within 5 feet of him when he shoots it. If it happened after the 3rd or 4th possession it's understandable. But on the 1st possession? After the week they had? How did they let that happen?

We didn't leave him open. He did nothing in the 1st half and Minnesota came out with a set play. How many more points did he score? Is it possible our game plan was to make someone else beat us?

 

[WindsorHawk]

I would be fine with no zone being played in the second half of any of our games for the rest of the year. It seems like we have our energy level isn't quite there enough to close out on shooters quick enough. In the 1st half its fine as we are ready to go. But I think we need to just stay in man, or do man on misses and our half or 3/4 trap defense on makes. I am just so sick of seeing made three after made three on us.

It seemed to me this happened when Uthoff and Gesell had to leave with 3 fouls. When that didn't work we tried something else.

 

[HomerChampless]

I would be fine with no zone being played in the second half of any of our games for the rest of the year. It seems like we have our energy level isn't quite there enough to close out on shooters quick enough. In the 1st half its fine as we are ready to go. But I think we need to just stay in man, or do man on misses and our half or 3/4 trap defense on makes. I am just so sick of seeing made three after made three on us.

Zone is the fallback defense for teams that can't play defense. Iowa plays zone because Iowa isn't good with man-to-man defense. And Iowa's offensive sets? Throw the ball to a player and have everyone else clear out? This is the offensive set Fran called when Iowa was down with less than a minute?

Do you still wonder how Iowa gets so far behind in the second half? Defense.

Starting to doubt Fran's ability.

 

[eveningnewsteam]

Zone is the fallback defense for teams that can't play defense.

Tell Jim Boeheim that. With Iowa's length, they should be able to clog up the lane and contest shots out of the zone. Iowa's problem in it, is they dont play active and they arent disciplined it it. They over extend themselves and gamble and now theyre out of position. That's how the wide open 3s are happening.

 

[Knight78]

This is the second straight game I've seen our defense completely break down in the 2nd half.

1. Coaching and strategy - these trapping defenses that McCaffery plays are not very good defenses when you have a big lead. They CAN speed up the game if the other team decides to be aggressive and with decent penetration and ball movement they lead to wide open shots.

2. Player intelligence and poise - we really are bad at breaking down at the end of the shot clock - we overextend, panic, fly out to mid court for no reason and leave huge driving lanes for the opposition.

I still think much of it is on the players but after watching two games of this (and thinking of last year) a lot of it is on McCaffery.

Once we were up by 17 we should have went into a 2-3 zone and not a defense trapping at half court leaving wide open lanes to the basket.

Disagree. We did something right to get up by 17. We don't suddenly just change it because it's the second half. We should keep doing what got us the lead in the first place. Like in all other sports, you need to have the killer instinct. If they are on the ground, put your boot to their throat and keep them there.

 

[Bigtenchamp]

Not sure what game you were watching in the second half but we did not use the real 1-3-1 trap zone until the last 5 minutes or so of the second half and it really helped get minny out of their comfort zone.

hey, our centers played the high ball screen great in the first half, they hedged enough to make the dribbler stop and divert farther out then our centers hustled back. In the second half Minny countered that by quick ball reversal dribbles and passes which bit us and left them with wide open 3's. and our players didnt look as quick against the dribble penetration.

Dont confuse a high ball screen hedge with a real trapping defense.

In the first half the hawks seemed to play with a half step more intensity and anticipation which gets to your point on player intelligence and poise.

We looked more passive and chased them in the second half.

the 1-3-1 really helped in the last part of the second half.

It also helped that we fouled two of their worst free throw shooters who clunked the front end.

You are right they did play 2-3 a lot.

 

[Bigtenchamp]

Yeah I stand corrected - they were in a 2-3 zone a lot when they were getting torched.

From what I could see reviewing the film... whatever defense they played they played it badly.