Deadpin checks up on judge who set Sandusky bail

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FalseMirage said:
I guess the DA didn't understand that.
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sandusky hasn't been proven guilty, yet. As he is not a flight risk, house arrest would likely be considered a punishment in this instance. it is not the judges job to punish the accused at the time of a bail hearing.

the DA was likely asking for something that they wanted but knew they likely would not get.

the only way a judge will not allow someone out on bail or place someone on house arrest is if they are a flight risk or if they are a danger to the community. now before you respond with "how is a pedophile not a danger to the community", keep in mind he hasnt been proven guilty of anything yet, nor is he already a registered sex offender, despite what has been made public in his indictment.
 
Re: Deadspin checks up on judge who set Sandusky bail

vigorousKnit said:
sandusky hasn't been proven guilty, yet. As he is not a flight risk, house arrest would likely be considered a punishment in this instance. it is not the judges job to punish the accused at the time of a bail hearing.

the DA was likely asking for something that they wanted but knew they likely would not get.

the only way a judge will not allow someone out on bail or place someone on house arrest is if they are a flight risk or if they are a danger to the community. now before you respond with "how is a pedophile not a danger to the community", keep in mind he hasnt been proven guilty of anything yet, nor is he already a registered sex offender, despite what has been made public in his indictment.
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That is my point. That is a judgement call better made by a person who is not a volunteer with his organization. Maybe another judge rules the same, but how does she not recuse herself, and let another judge make that call. This looks terrible, and should be investigated.
 
JailBreak81 said:
So in your opinion there was no conflict of interest here?

Dominique Strauss-Kahn was required to pay $1 million cash only bond, wear a monitoring device, and waive his extradition rights on the accusation of a single very questionable accuser. Sandusky is basically guaranteed to die in prison, and faces numerous accusers who have been deemed incredibly reliable, yet he gets $100,000 unsecured bond and no monitoring. It is unreasonable then for me to think there may have been some favoritism on the part of this judge?
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is a conflict of interest here a possibility, i suppose. but I do not think that sandusky's bail amount and release was as unreasonable as some are suggesting. so IMO the conflict of interest is irrelevant.

I'm pretty unfamiliar with the strauss-kahn case, but wasnt he a citizen of another country? If i remember correctly he was a french diplomat? that would definitely be an apples to oranges comparison if so.
 
Re: Deadspin checks up on judge who set Sandusky bail

JailBreak81 said:
That is my point. That is a judgement call better made by a person who is not a volunteer with his organization. Maybe another judge rules the same, but how does she not recuse herself, and let another judge make that call. This looks terrible, and should be investigated.
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I would think if it was deemed to be an issue by those involved in the prosecution they would be asking for it to be moved.
 
vigorousKnit said:
is a conflict of interest here a possibility, i suppose. but I do not think that sandusky's bail amount and release was as unreasonable as some are suggesting. so IMO the conflict of interest is irrelevant.

I'm pretty unfamiliar with the strauss-kahn case, but wasnt he a citizen of another country? If i remember correctly he was a french diplomat? that would definitely be an apples to oranges comparison if so.
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I bring him up as a comparison because it was also a very high profile case. The dude was the head of the IMF, it is not as if he was just going to disappear. Also, he had MUCH less incentive to flee in the first place.

Requiring the guy to wear a monitoring device certainly does not seem like an unreasonable request. Another judgement call better made by a person who has not volunteered for the guy's charity.

I guess I am just amazed that she did not just recuse herself, and let someone else handle it. She had to have known how bad this would look.
 
according to the local fox station, Sandusky is being investigated for an incident at the '99 Alamo Bowl but no charges yet. Would post link but no link on their mobile sp.
 
JailBreak81 said:
I bring him up as a comparison because it was also a very high profile case. The dude was the head of the IMF, it is not as if he was just going to disappear. Also, he had MUCH less incentive to flee in the first place.

Requiring the guy to wear a monitoring device certainly does not seem like an unreasonable request. Another judgement call better made by a person who has not volunteered for the guy's charity.

I guess I am just amazed that she did not just recuse herself, and let someone else handle it. She had to have known how bad this would look.
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If I recall he was in a jet on the tarmac when authorities boarded the plane to arrest him. He was a definite flight risk and almost got away.

In the end he made a flight out. Just not that one.
 
Doublewide said:
He was spotted in downtown state college shopping last friday.
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Wearing PSU gear, no less Yep, he's really bloody miserable. :rolleyes:


I don't see how $500k & monitoring is in any way unreasonable considering the charges (and additional charges likely to come in the future once more victims come forward).
 
Re: Deadspin checks up on judge who set Sandusky bail

JailBreak81 said:
That is my point. That is a judgement call better made by a person who is not a volunteer with his organization. Maybe another judge rules the same, but how does she not recuse herself, and let another judge make that call. This looks terrible, and should be investigated.
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Exactly. A conflict of interest does not lie within the decision the judge makes, it lies within her associations. I can't say whether mere involvement with Sandusky's organization constitutes a conflict of interest, but JailBreak is right in that you can't evaluate a conflict of interest by what was decided. I do agree with vigorousKnit though, in that the possible conflict here may not have affected much outside of the interest in ethical practice itself.
 
skinnykilmer17 said:
If I recall he was in a jet on the tarmac when authorities boarded the plane to arrest him. He was a definite flight risk and almost got away.

In the end he made a flight out. Just not that one.
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And you may also recall that particular flight had been booked months in advance, as he had planned to be here for whatever reason. It is not like he was trying to steal away in the middle of the night. It matters very little. I just found it odd.
 
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