David Stern wants to raise the NBA age minimum by 1 year.

[HawkeyeMike23]

And he'd be right.

Name another profession with a minimum age requirement?

Baseball and hockey players can sign out of high school.
Tennis players and golfers can go on tour if they want.

But the two sports that are dominated by black players, suddenly have age requirements?

Here is the thing. Neither league should have the requirement. The NCAA should mandate that if you sign a scholarship, you are signing a minimum three year commitment.

You are either good enough to go right away or you are not. If you're not, you are being given an opportunity to play competitively in what amounts to the minor leagues of the sport, and get a free education. There is nothing wrong with the NCAA, conferences or institutions doing this.

There is a lot wrong with the professional leagues themselves doing it.

The NBDL takes 18 year olds.

 

[thejumper5]

Name another profession with a minimum age requirement?

There are literally thousands of jobs and private employers with written and unwritten age minimum standards. Taxi drivers, school teachers, clergy people, doctors, and countless other jobs would be off limits to 18 year olds even if they had the proper educational training.

 

[OatesStache]

And he'd be right.

Name another profession with a minimum age requirement?

Baseball and hockey players can sign out of high school.
Tennis players and golfers can go on tour if they want.

But the two sports that are dominated by black players, suddenly have age requirements?

Here is the thing. Neither league should have the requirement. The NCAA should mandate that if you sign a scholarship, you are signing a minimum three year commitment.

You are either good enough to go right away or you are not. If you're not, you are being given an opportunity to play competitively in what amounts to the minor leagues of the sport, and get a free education. There is nothing wrong with the NCAA, conferences or institutions doing this.

There is a lot wrong with the professional leagues themselves doing it.

Dude, private businesses set age requirements all the time. The NBA and NFL can do whatever they want, if they think it is best for their business.

 

[Section136]

And he'd be right.

Name another profession with a minimum age requirement?

Baseball and hockey players can sign out of high school.
Tennis players and golfers can go on tour if they want.

But the two sports that are dominated by black players, suddenly have age requirements?

Here is the thing. Neither league should have the requirement. The NCAA should mandate that if you sign a scholarship, you are signing a minimum three year commitment.

You are either good enough to go right away or you are not. If you're not, you are being given an opportunity to play competitively in what amounts to the minor leagues of the sport, and get a free education. There is nothing wrong with the NCAA, conferences or institutions doing this.

There is a lot wrong with the professional leagues themselves doing it.

BS. The NFL and NBA are private enterprises and can set whatever requirements they want in order to be employed by one of their franchises.

If they think this will make the quality of their product better and more profitable, they all were within their rights to do so. Race card does not work here, Boss.

 

[DodgerHawki]

If they could get the rules similar to baseball it would be best...

And he'd be right.

Name another profession with a minimum age requirement?

Baseball and hockey players can sign out of high school.
Tennis players and golfers can go on tour if they want.

But the two sports that are dominated by black players, suddenly have age requirements?

Here is the thing. Neither league should have the requirement. The NCAA should mandate that if you sign a scholarship, you are signing a minimum three year commitment.

You are either good enough to go right away or you are not. If you're not, you are being given an opportunity to play competitively in what amounts to the minor leagues of the sport, and get a free education. There is nothing wrong with the NCAA, conferences or institutions doing this.

There is a lot wrong with the professional leagues themselves doing it.

If you want to become a professional right out of high school, go for it. But you then area either on an NBA roster or a D-League roster. If you go to college, then you are in college for 3 years.

 

[herbyhawk]

my opinin let BB go the way of Baseball, go 20 round or more and set up a minor league, where you have A league AA and AAA leagues and let them play for pay. get rid of the kids that are not interested in a education, do you really think the kids at Kentucky really go to class, i doubt it they might attend BB 101 to be eleligble for the 2nd semester then they stop going or even care as they are going to the NBA.
this would clean up College BB especially if the NCAA makes the scholly more of a contract where both parties have to make it a 4 year deal not only would it clean up BB but FB as well, and tie in grade requirement into the contract and also put in a clause that protects the player, if he maintain a good academic standing he can't be cur or lose his scholarship.
this would end the oversigning of player and running summer camp like the pro's

 

[OatesStache]

my opinin let BB go the way of Baseball, go 20 round or more and set up a minor league, where you have A league AA and AAA leagues and let them play for pay. get rid of the kids that are not interested in a education, do you really think the kids at Kentucky really go to class, i doubt it they might attend BB 101 to be eleligble for the 2nd semester then they stop going or even care as they are going to the NBA.
this would clean up College BB especially if the NCAA makes the scholly more of a contract where both parties have to make it a 4 year deal not only would it clean up BB but FB as well, and tie in grade requirement into the contract and also put in a clause that protects the player, if he maintain a good academic standing he can't be cur or lose his scholarship.
this would end the oversigning of player and running summer camp like the pro's

That's absurd. I mean laugh out loud absurd. Why would the NBA pay to set up a huge farm system, when a free one already exists?

And assume this system was started up, then college basketball dies. If 600+ college eligible players leave the recruiting pool for your 20 round draft, then what happens to the quality of college ball?

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

my opinin let BB go the way of Baseball, go 20 round or more and set up a minor league, where you have A league AA and AAA leagues and let them play for pay. get rid of the kids that are not interested in a education, do you really think the kids at Kentucky really go to class, i doubt it they might attend BB 101 to be eleligble for the 2nd semester then they stop going or even care as they are going to the NBA.
this would clean up College BB especially if the NCAA makes the scholly more of a contract where both parties have to make it a 4 year deal not only would it clean up BB but FB as well, and tie in grade requirement into the contract and also put in a clause that protects the player, if he maintain a good academic standing he can't be cur or lose his scholarship.
this would end the oversigning of player and running summer camp like the pro's

The NBA will never go back to allowing high schoolers to enter the draft. It doesn't make any business sense for them at all. The NCAA's problems are not the NBA's problems.

 

[BSpringsteen]

BS. The NFL and NBA are private enterprises and can set whatever requirements they want in order to be employed by one of their franchises.

If they think this will make the quality of their product better and more profitable, they all were within their rights to do so. Race card does not work here, Boss.

I'm not debating the legality of it. Of course they can do whatever they want.

It doesn't mean that the image of 18 year old black kids from the inner city suddenly becoming le neuveux riche millionaires isn't driving this.

 

[herbyhawk]

Dude, private businesses set age requirements all the time. The NBA and NFL can do whatever they want, if they think it is best for their business.

dude the NBA and NFL are a business, the clubs are owned seperately, the owners still have the right to say who they hire, as the players get a SALARY.it may be a game to the fan but in actuality it is very much a business a billion dolar business but a business non the less

 

[SpiderRico]

And he'd be right.

Name another profession with a minimum age requirement?

Baseball and hockey players can sign out of high school.
Tennis players and golfers can go on tour if they want.

But the two sports that are dominated by black players, suddenly have age requirements?

Here is the thing. Neither league should have the requirement. The NCAA should mandate that if you sign a scholarship, you are signing a minimum three year commitment.

You are either good enough to go right away or you are not. If you're not, you are being given an opportunity to play competitively in what amounts to the minor leagues of the sport, and get a free education. There is nothing wrong with the NCAA, conferences or institutions doing this.

There is a lot wrong with the professional leagues themselves doing it.

Nearly every job has some sort of requirement. Whether it be skill-level, level of education, ability to lift 50 lbs, score on an aptitude test, etc. Every job has it. And they do it because it's in the company's best interest to do so. The NFL believes it's in their best interest for a kid to get 3 years under his belt so that when he comes into the league to play against grown men, they don't get anihiliated. In addition, they're able to improve their skill level and maturity level and not get paid by an NFL team to do so. The NBA will eventually come around as well.

And it has nothing to do with race. Those two sports you cited happen to be the most popular, most revenue-generating sports in America. It's in those leagues' best interest to put on the field or on the floor the highest quality, best caliber players and teams they can.

Come down off your soap-box and join the rest of us in the real world.

 

[herbyhawk]

one more thing to confirm this. Green Bay is even incorporated with their being stock holders by many fans in the Packers.

 

[thejumper5]

I'm not debating the legality of it. Of course they can do whatever they want.

It doesn't mean that the image of 18 year old black kids from the inner city suddenly becoming le neuveux riche millionaires isn't driving this.

In your race-centered scenario, why would those that are racist not be concerned about 20 year nouveau riche "black kids from the inner city" if they are concerned about 18 year old nouveau riche "black kids from the inner city"?

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

I'm not debating the legality of it. Of course they can do whatever they want.

It doesn't mean that the image of 18 year old black kids from the inner city suddenly becoming le neuveux riche millionaires isn't driving this.

I think Robert Swift played a big part in driving this rule.

 

[thejumper5]

Baseball and hockey players can sign out of high school.
Tennis players and golfers can go on tour if they want.

But the two sports that are dominated by black players, suddenly have age requirements?

Baseball and hockey have highly developed minor league systems in which their players can spend years developing. Tennis and golf are individual sports where the success or failure of a player is hurts or helps only the individual and not a team. Basketball and football, without a minor league structure with which they can protect their investments opt to have an age minimum instead.

 

[Clonehomer]

Why not allow them in the NBDL immediately out of high school and the NBA two years removed? Allow teams to draft high schoolers with resonable contracts so they can develop in your system.

 

[thejumper5]

Why not allow them in the NBDL immediately out of high school and the NBA two years removed? Allow teams to draft high schoolers with resonable contracts so they can develop in your system.

They are allowed in the DL out of HS now, but they enter the DL draft. There have been a couple of players that spent a year in the DL before entering the draft.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

Why not allow them in the NBDL immediately out of high school and the NBA two years removed? Allow teams to draft high schoolers with resonable contracts so they can develop in your system.

The NBA does not want to have to scout high schoolers. They've made this clear with the one and done rule, otherwsie yes I think you will see a two year rule within five years.

 

[OatesStache]

The NBA does not want to have to scout high schoolers. They've made this clear with the one and done rule, otherwsie yes I think you will see a two year rule within five years.

Mike, do you have that link to the salaries of basketball coaches in Europe. I still don't believe they make more than college coaches.

 

[DuffMan]

Agreed, this would improve both the NCAA and NBA products.