Dantonio / MSU Article
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hawkeyebob62
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Wow, so Blackwell/Dantonio tried to flip BOTH Latimore and A Jackson? It's one thing to go after guys when losing a recruit to a blueblood or high-profile school. Going after guys because you lose guys to crimianl activity is as scurve-ball as it gets, IMO.
iloveyoularrystation
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crazy. and the basketball team has an ongoing lawsuit for sexual assault it said there too. what a culture they got over there.
This passage was pretty troubling:
'Not sending a message'
The prosecution of the players was neither swift nor smooth. Exactly one year to the day after they were dismissed, King, Corley and Vance pleaded guilty to charges that they did “seduce and debauch” an unmarried woman — an obscure law that dates to 1846 — to avoid jail time.
Each was sentenced to three years’ probation and ordered to undergo sex-offender treatment and therapy. Under the Holmes Youthful Training Act, the police report was sealed. By the law, they are not sex offenders.
The plea was made to avoid a trial, which was the victim’s preference. Still, she wasn’t happy with the punishment.
►READ: Police report for King, Corley and Vance
“The family was not OK with that,” said Karen Truszkowski, the Lansing lawyer for the victim. “They’re a good family, good people ... they were fair and they were reasonable, but they did not think that sentence was adequate. ... The feeling was, this is not sending a message to other people that you should not do this."
The prosecution of the players was neither swift nor smooth. Exactly one year to the day after they were dismissed, King, Corley and Vance pleaded guilty to charges that they did “seduce and debauch” an unmarried woman — an obscure law that dates to 1846 — to avoid jail time.
Each was sentenced to three years’ probation and ordered to undergo sex-offender treatment and therapy. Under the Holmes Youthful Training Act, the police report was sealed. By the law, they are not sex offenders.
The plea was made to avoid a trial, which was the victim’s preference. Still, she wasn’t happy with the punishment.
►READ: Police report for King, Corley and Vance
“The family was not OK with that,” said Karen Truszkowski, the Lansing lawyer for the victim. “They’re a good family, good people ... they were fair and they were reasonable, but they did not think that sentence was adequate. ... The feeling was, this is not sending a message to other people that you should not do this."
A few more thoughts (it is a tough piece to let go, I would recommend a read if you have the time):
- Robertson never should have set foot on any college campus, it sounds like he should have been in a mental-health based correctional facility. The move to admit him is pretty unforgivable.If you are going to stick your neck out to get that guy on campus, you need to be removed after he predictably rapes someone.
- The case of the other 3 players that raped a girl (and got probation for it) is unfortunately all too familiar. Young men steeped in a culture of disrespecting women and who feel free from repercussions. MSU suspended all immediately, and they were kicked off the team once the investigation was concluded. Dantonio did mess up the reporting process. He reported to the MSU equity office and the AD, but not to the police. He and his staff had just undergone training on reporting of sexual assault within the past week, so it is a little hard to buy this as an honest mistake and not at least some attempt at keeping this as quiet as possible. Dantonio said he thought the equity office would contact the police.
- Blackwell does appear to have been scapegoated. Hard to see how he is any more responsible in this than anyone else, certainly he seems less culpable than Dantonio.
- Dantonio should be gone because of Robertson. It is difficult to hang him on the other case without knowing more about the extent to which he contributed to the culture by looking the other way. That is the sort of thing that could happen to just about any coach, and his handling of the issue was mostly appropriate.
- I am pretty certain that after the Everson/Satterfield incident, KF decided that he would do everything he could to prevent a similar situation in the future. That, more so than any other consideration, is probably why they send so many fewer offers than other schools and so thoroughly vet their recruits.
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You know what they say. As tough as it is to get to the top it's even tougher to stay there.
okeefe4prez
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The University of Iowa has aggressive procedures that were implemented after Pierce Incident Number 2 and have been further refined over the years. Ferentz tossed bone crusher out the moment the kid set foot on campus. Coker disappeared. Everson/Satterfield were gone as soon as allegations surfaced. Ferentz knows that it is better to hit the I Club circuit off a thrilling 7-6 season with a huge bowl game victory over some crappy ACC team than to maybe pick up another win or two and have to deal with character questions. Character issues will get him fired, underperformance will not.
How anyone thinks Dantonio should be a D1 coach after reading that is just a demented individual. They knew about red flags on kids and just kept the door open. Just wait till the media heat from the Law getting involved gets too hot then kick em out. It's pretty disgusting and I would think grounds for them to be liable in crimes against victims too.
In the big picture that is exactly what this country needs!! We already have enough politicians, big entertainers, big business people with questionable character.
HawkGold
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You are sugarcoating Everrson Satterfield.
That said Dantonio and maybe Izz should be cleared out.
okeefe4prez
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Hey, pal, Chris Rucker got a helluva tongue lashing after getting out of jail on a Thursday before the Iowa game on Saturday that Dantonio let him play in.
MelroseHawkins
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What a train wreck.
homes
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Read this. Everyone can draw their own conclusions. The problem is that the UI, like most if not all other schools, had way too many people "in charge" so no one ends up being in charge. Bureaucratic sclerosis. It still goes on.
https://www.iowaregents.edu/media/cms/stolarreport-pdf5CCE987B.pdf
HawkGold
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Reports like that I regard lightly. Baylor and MSU and others all had similar. Iowa s didnt seem to grow legs and there havent been more issues. So it appears to have been nipped hopefully. My comment was that Iowa issues as stated in the post were sugar coated.
homes
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I thought the factual background was interesting, there was information in there that I was not aware of before. Still, no one at the UI was in truly in charge, getting tossed around from department to department. Agree, it appears the UI did learn from it, which is a good thing.
