Yeah. I think in todays college football. I think making the playoffs should be the first goal. That goes for the coaches and scheduling who they play in the non conference right on down. If you have a schedule like Iowa has had where it's 'debatable' on whether or not you should get to the playoffs if you run the table then your not doing your job. So the ADs/HCs should be working towards that. As nice as the Outback bowl is it's by no means what should be towards the top of any priority list in the preseason...
Dabo and Clemson
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Fryowa
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I agree, but you have to be prepared to accept at Iowa what has happened at Nebraska and other schools. The revolving door approach rarely works out, and if you don't find the right coach the first time then your program is going to be a complete tire fire a la the huskers. Yes, they have a better record than us but look at the teams they beat. Nebraska is on its fourth coach since 2003 because the fans and administrators expect instant 11-1 seasons and run coaches out who've never done worse than 9-3. Now guess what? They're not ever going to get the next Nick Saban because coaches see what a shit show it is and there's no way an elite guy is going to go there only to get embarrassed and run out of town. So Nebraska's only option is to take the mid-level cast offs like Riley and hope for the best. Not a situation I'd like to be in.
I'm not opposed to looking for a coach by any means, but you have to be able to handle it if it doesn't work out. Saban/Harbaugh/etc. would be great to have, but you also have to remember that before they were great coaches/recruiters they were just as much of a long shot as anyone else, and the odds of picking a dud are orders of magnitude higher than finding the next national champ coach. If the Hawks went a different direction than Ferentz I'd hope like he'll he was given at least a chance. Because right now, we have 2 choices: be top third of the conference consistently and make a bowl game every year but never compete at the top, or gamble on a coach which could make the Hawks contenders but (statistically) is more likely to leave us with a burnt turd like they have in Lincoln right now. Tough choice because I want to be a playoff team, but I also don't want to be a flavor of the month laughing stock.
So you fellers actually believe that if Saban or Dabo came to Iowa, they would have the Hawks playing for national championships? I don't think the facts about the 'nature of the game' at this time support that theory...The only time someone was able to compete at that level at Iowa was when Forrest Evashevski cheated like hell in recruiting. I always loved Alex Karras's story about his recruitment and time at Iowa......
Here's something Alex said when he was 41....""It's ridiculous for Iowa to try to compete with Ohio State and Michigan in the Big Ten. Those schools have alumni groups that can get them anything they want. Bob Commings, who was my roommate at Iowa, is the best coach Iowa can get, but he's bucking a very big dynasty in the conference."
Things really haven't changed much.....oh, except know we know players 'stars' now, so that really evened the playing field, bahahaha........
Here's something Alex said when he was 41....""It's ridiculous for Iowa to try to compete with Ohio State and Michigan in the Big Ten. Those schools have alumni groups that can get them anything they want. Bob Commings, who was my roommate at Iowa, is the best coach Iowa can get, but he's bucking a very big dynasty in the conference."
Things really haven't changed much.....oh, except know we know players 'stars' now, so that really evened the playing field, bahahaha........
Joshbrown
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That is disturbing. I wonder if it is a reflection of the HC and players taking on his lil ole Iowa personality.
And here i thought Dabo ran such a clean program with stand up guys, but must think it is ok to grab another guys junk after getting tackled on football field....and rest of teammates find it ok as they have done it all year, if that happens on the street somewhere it is sexual assault...
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...grabbing-play-team-done-all-year-mess-players
http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...grabbing-play-team-done-all-year-mess-players
SpiderRico
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I have no doubt it is. In fact, I could see a scenario where the leadership council sends him a list of their goals for the year and he comes back to them and says "Guys, these goals are too ambitious....you need to take them down a notch. Might I suggest the following: 1. Win your trophy games. 2. Get back to Indy 3. Win a bowl game. How's that sound?"
I'm waiting for the time when I read that one of the team goals is "Do your best". I mean, why not. KF himself says that he judges seasons on more than just wins and losses.....
IAHAWK1982
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You realize that Meyer (OSU) won the national championship just a couple years ago with a third string quarterback. But I guess that is ancient history.
Joshbrown
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I would like to engage you in a friendly and lengthy discussion where we exchange ideas and thoughts about the Iowa football and basketball program.
I'll go first.
I think Stoops would have Iowa at the same place that Wisky is currently at.
Thoughts?
HuckFinn
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As to Iowa under Evy: I don't know much about whether or not Evy cheated on the recruiting trail. I have no evidence either way. But I do know that Evy retired because he saw the two platoon system coming and recognized that if Iowa had to recruit 22 starters, plus depth, rather than 11, he would be in trouble at Iowa.
If you, Icke, don't want to take my word for this little history lesson, google it. BTW, I saw my first Iowa game in 1952.
Joshbrown
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And just like Kirk plays for field position instead of TDs . . . he also plays for respectability rather than to put fear into the opponent. That's why he hates running up the score.
Clemson is now a Blue Blood. No one can convince me Iowa can't do it. Wanting it is the first step.
Joshbrown
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I think on that last Clemson drive Captain plays for the FG instead of the TD.
