College Athletics Has Changed

[Hay Man]

I'm thrilled and excited with the hiring of Ben McCullom, but the way money and transfers have taken over how all of college athletics functions, I for one don't like where it's headed. There's no loyalty to a program, very little loyalty to a coach and it's basically turned into the only way to win is to have the most money and outbidding everyone else.

I, like most on this board would be doing the same thing as these "student" athletes and would take the money and run to the highest bidder. You can't blame them one bit. The NCAA has lost it's ability to control what they ultimately created from years of not listening to it's own athletes. How does this get reigned in and allow equal opportunity for all schools? I don't think the NCAA can put this monster back in the bottle. What's left is the mighty few schools in particular sports that can afford to compete at the highest levels. Iowa won't be in that group (maybe wrestling for now). Conference realignment probably isn't done and who knows if schools that can't afford to have a competitive sports department will be left behind. Do the bottom feeders find themselves in a lower tier conference, while losing revenue that helped keep other sports programs alive at the school?

Am I being overly dramatic? Most likely yes. But I don't enjoy what's happening to college athletics and fear it's only going to get worse for the Iowa programs.

 

[HuckFinn]

Not overly dramatic, at all. Yes, we have to accept the reality we see right now. However, it is also true that the game faces some significant problems with out of control buying of teams at a rate that was not likely anticipated.

Tighter transfer rules could help. Salary schedules, which are used everywhere, could be implemented. Or, we could just say oh hell. It is what it is…

I really wonder what will happen with fan bases? Maybe they will tire of never knowing who they will watch one year to the next? What if fans can no longer get really involved with their favorite player over a 3or 4 year career?

Will the concept of college sports that has attracted incredible fan support for the long haul lose its identity when NIL essentially controls or even destroys competition?
Maybe the jury is still out. Kinda hope so…

 

[BigD]

Not overly dramatic, at all. Yes, we have to accept the reality we see right now. However, it is also true that the game faces some significant problems with out of control buying of teams at a rate that was not likely anticipated.

Tighter transfer rules could help. Salary schedules, which are used everywhere, could be implemented. Or, we could just say oh hell. It is what it is…

I really wonder what will happen with fan bases? Maybe they will tire of never knowing who they will watch one year to the next? What if fans can no longer get really involved with their favorite player over a 3or 4 year career?

Will the concept of college sports that has attracted incredible fan support for the long haul lose its identity when NIL essentially controls or even destroys competition?
Maybe the jury is still out. Kinda hope so…

Yes to all of your questions if ground rules aren’t developed.

 

[BigD]

Will the Drakes of college sports be come farm systems to the big schools and get reimbursed by the bigger schools when their players advance?

 

[Zstatman]

I'm wondering about this. What happens when the NIL $ start running out and I assume it will. Right now players are going to the highest bidder. But when the NIL $ start drying up what do the rest of those in the portal do? Then it will be about finding a landing spot. This might be when Iowa starts to find its players.

 

[HuckFinn]

Will the Drakes of college sports be come farm systems to the big schools and get reimbursed by the bigger schools when their players advance?

This is exactly what College Sports on Sirius X M predict. Opinion only, but close followers of college bb.

 

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[HuckFinn]

Loved Hee Haw, especially this one. And, when LuLu asked for a compliment she got, “For a big gal, you sure don’t sweat much.”

 

[trj]

I'm thrilled and excited with the hiring of Ben McCullom, but the way money and transfers have taken over how all of college athletics functions, I for one don't like where it's headed. There's no loyalty to a program, very little loyalty to a coach and it's basically turned into the only way to win is to have the most money and outbidding everyone else.

I, like most on this board would be doing the same thing as these "student" athletes and would take the money and run to the highest bidder. You can't blame them one bit. The NCAA has lost it's ability to control what they ultimately created from years of not listening to it's own athletes. How does this get reigned in and allow equal opportunity for all schools? I don't think the NCAA can put this monster back in the bottle. What's left is the mighty few schools in particular sports that can afford to compete at the highest levels. Iowa won't be in that group (maybe wrestling for now). Conference realignment probably isn't done and who knows if schools that can't afford to have a competitive sports department will be left behind. Do the bottom feeders find themselves in a lower tier conference, while losing revenue that helped keep other sports programs alive at the school?

Am I being overly dramatic? Most likely yes. But I don't enjoy what's happening to college athletics and fear it's only going to get worse for the Iowa programs.

I don’t disagree, but I will play devil’s advocate. Hasn’t this always been the case and now everything is above board? As out-of-control as everything is…at least we don’t have to pretend anymore.

 

[HuckFinn]

I don’t disagree, but I will play devil’s advocate. Hasn’t this always been the case and now everything is above board? As out-of-control as everything is…at least we don’t have to pretend anymore.

What you say about the past is tough to argue with. However, the future looks even worse, in my view. You could almost name the sweet 16, elite 8, and maybe final 4 before the season begins based on NIL distributions.

 

[BigD]

This is exactly what College Sports on Sirius X M predict. Opinion only, but close followers of college bb.

I liked your comment, but I am not happy with how this could turn out for programs with limited funds available.

What you say about the past is tough to argue with. However, the future looks even worse, in my view. You could almost name the sweet 16, elite 8, and maybe final 4 before the season begins based on NIL distributions.

I'll give it three years max and if that's how it's going to be then I won't be sitting there watching their damn commercials........... eff them.

 

[BigD]

Loved Hee Haw, especially this one. And, when LuLu asked for a compliment she got, “For a big gal, you sure don’t sweat much.”

LMAO, you say that now and you are going to be in big trouble. Someone named Karen will sit on you.

 

[eyekwah]

I'm not a demographer, but I've been studying this issue using census data. Based on demographics Iowa and Iowa State cannot survive in their respective conferences long term trying to play football. Basketball is better, but not by a whole lot. Here are a few reason:

Iowa is the second smallest state population wise in the Big Ten, it has the smallest Black population percentage wise in the Big Ten, and it has to share any in state talent with ISU. I have a spreadsheet comparing universities in the P4 and ISU and Iowa would be near the bottom in athletes available. There is the discrepancy in the size of the Alumni base. The donor pool is 1/3 the size of a OSU, PSU, or UofMi . It makes it harder to raise money.

I'm too old to see it happen, but Iowa will have to leave the Big Ten under the new circumstances, unless they change. There are a few other members that will join them. If your state population is below 6M and you have 2 or more teams trying to be P4 members you are going to eventually sink to the bottom. The states like Iowa, Kansas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Utah, and Oregon are in this group.

State	Rank	Population	School Age Pop	Black Pop	% Black	Pop/Team	BlkPop/Team	# of P-5	P- 5 Members
Mississippi	35​	2,942,920​	503,543​	1,132,820​	38.49%​	1,471,460​	566,410​	2​	Ole Miss, MSSt
Kansas	34​	2,989,710​	515,390​	223,538​	7.48%​	1,494,855​	111,769​	2​	KS, KSU
Iowa	32​	3,264,560​	538,289​	172,181​	5.27%​	1,632,280​	86,091​	2​	IA, ISU
West Virginia	39​	1,769,460​	263,925​	85,925​	4.86%​	1,769,460​	85,925​	1​	WV
Utah	30​	3,564,000​	698,534​	69,339​	1.95%​	1,782,000​	34,670​	2​	BYU, Utah
Nebraska	38​	2,023,070​	352,840​	127,493​	6.30%​	2,023,070​	127,493​	1​	NE
Oklahoma	28​	4,126,900​	709,475​	384,945​	9.33%​	2,063,450​	192,473​	2​	Ok, OSU
Oregon	27​	4,291,090​	630,914​	137,857​	3.21%​	2,145,545​	68,929​	2​	Oregon, OSU
Kentucky	25​	4,626,150​	741,862​	439,100​	9.49%​	2,313,075​	219,550​	2​	Kentucky, Lousiville
Indiana	17​	6,968,420​	1,164,977​	766,621​	11%​	2,322,807​	255,540​	3​	Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame
Alabama	24​	5,197,720​	821,263​	1,391,120​	26.76%​	2,598,860​	695,560​	2​	Alabama, Auburn
South Carolina	23​	5,569,830​	831,989​	1,420,210​	25.50%​	2,784,915​	710,105​	2​	S Car, Clemson

The records are sorted by State Population Per Team, Iowa has 1,632,289 residents for the two teams. The third lowest in the country, only Kansas and Mississippi are worse. We would be dishonest to not look at the affect of black athletes in college sports. Iowa sits near the bottom with having black athletes available.

Ultimately the TV networks will determine who is in and who is out.

 

[ajdwhs87]

I don’t disagree, but I will play devil’s advocate. Hasn’t this always been the case and now everything is above board? As out-of-control as everything is…at least we don’t have to pretend anymore.

No NIL, even having to sit out a year when you transfer so it wasn't the same at times even if you say some were getting under the table. We had Cinderellas that would stay together for three and four years, develop and make these runs. Now they get scouted and the players poached so those are really not gonna happen much anymore which is certainly different. Most chalk ever in the Elite 8 and all the top seeds in the Final Four since 2008 and only the second time ever. Things are not as they have been and it is not good. Maybe good for the Dukes of the college landscape but not for the fans and for the tournament quality.