Coker on Stony Brook practices

tm3308 said:
I think people are reading WAY too much into that comment. People need to stop acting so butt hurt over this.
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This. ^^^^

Coker has been in fall camp for a little over two weeks, and he comments that fall camp at one place is similar to the other. So!! Not exactly either a profound or unexpected observation, but if folks over here want to get go wild with their own interpretation and get all butt hurt, than whatever.
 
tm3308 said:
Bitter troll is bitter.

There is such a thing called principle. Coker strikes me as the kind of guy who has it; if he felt he was screwed over by the university, why WOULDN'T he leave? Because the fans here adore him?

His reputation was soiled long before he decided to transfer. There's not really any coming back from sexual assault allegations, whether they were true or not, in Iowa City. Not in the post-Pierce/Satterfield/Everson era.
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This. Coker seemed to have pretty high integrity and its well known the kid was pretty darn smart, and also volunteered a bunch for handicapped kids. Basically he didn't want to stick around for 1) he would have the "cloud" of accusations around him and 2) the university totally botched the handling of this. I digress, I know not the intimate detail.....just seemed like a good kid got a raw deal.

....I would like him to return.
 
tm3308 said:
It's pretty petty to make a big deal out of that comment. Oh, he didn't say we were so much better than his new school. BFD. Why do some people feel the urge to whine about it like he's out to get Iowa? And we make fun of ISU for their perceived inferiority complex.

The kid spent two years under Kirk Ferentz, the master of coach speak. What do you expect him to say?
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The End.
 
HawkeyeWalker said:
This. Coker seemed to have pretty high integrity and its well known the kid was pretty darn smart, and also volunteered a bunch for handicapped kids. Basically he didn't want to stick around for 1) he would have the "cloud" of accusations around him and 2) the university totally botched the handling of this. I digress, I know not the intimate detail.....just seemed like a good kid got a raw deal.

....I would like him to return.
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My understanding is that Coker was pitching the raw, not catching it. You don't walk away from something you love when you are totally innocent. You just don't do it...not with what he had at stake. Just saying.

Staying at Iowa and running behind a great offensive line with a Sr. QB versus moving to Stony Brooke and virtual football oblivion. To choose number two would be an admission of guilt to me.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
My understanding is that Coker was pitching the raw, not catching it. You don't walk away from something you love when you are totally innocent. You just don't do it...not with what he had at stake. Just saying.

Staying at Iowa and running behind a great offensive line with a Sr. QB versus moving to Stony Brooke and virtual football oblivion. To choose number two would be an admission of guilt to me.
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Not bad logic, but not one size fits all either.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
HawkeyeWalker said:
This. Coker seemed to have pretty high integrity and its well known the kid was pretty darn smart, and also volunteered a bunch for handicapped kids. Basically he didn't want to stick around for 1) he would have the "cloud" of accusations around him and 2) the university totally botched the handling of this. I digress, I know not the intimate detail.....just seemed like a good kid got a raw deal.....I would like him to return.
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My understanding is that Coker was pitching the raw, not catching it. You don't walk away from something you love when you are totally innocent. You just don't do it...not with what he had at stake. Just saying.Staying at Iowa and running behind a great offensive line with a Sr. QB versus moving to Stony Brooke and virtual football oblivion. To choose number two would be an admission of guilt to me.
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I see where you're trying to go. But, why would you want to stay in a situation where justice was not served, and you had your image totally slandered? Thinking long term about his career as an astrophysicist, that may have been his best decision in his eyes.
 
JugadorHawk said:
Coker did not see much difference in the I-A practice world he left at Iowa, saying, "Pretty much same type of practice, intensity the same, skill level is the exact same. There really isn't much of a difference. You can just see in practice how everybody is hyped up, amped for this season.''

Stony Brook football players have high expectations

I would hope every football team would be amped in August, Marcus.
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That's actually a pretty big compliment on our skill level. Minnesota beat us last year and they lost to North Dakota State, so if we are up to that level, we should at least be able to beat Minnesota for once.
 
okeefe4prez said:
JugadorHawk said:
Coker did not see much difference in the I-A practice world he left at Iowa, saying, "Pretty much same type of practice, intensity the same, skill level is the exact same. There really isn't much of a difference. You can just see in practice how everybody is hyped up, amped for this season.''Stony Brook football players have high expectationsI would hope every football team would be amped in August, Marcus.
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That's actually a pretty big compliment on our skill level. Minnesota beat us last year and they lost to North Dakota State, so if we are up to that level, we should at least be able to beat Minnesota for once.
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win
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
My understanding is that Coker was pitching the raw, not catching it. You don't walk away from something you love when you are totally innocent. You just don't do it...not with what he had at stake. Just saying.

Staying at Iowa and running behind a great offensive line with a Sr. QB versus moving to Stony Brooke and virtual football oblivion. To choose number two would be an admission of guilt to me.
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Or that he doesn't want to represent a university he feels didn't do him justice. That'd be reason enough for me to want to leave.
 
tm3308 said:
WinOneThisCentury said:
My understanding is that Coker was pitching the raw, not catching it. You don't walk away from something you love when you are totally innocent. You just don't do it...not with what he had at stake. Just saying.Staying at Iowa and running behind a great offensive line with a Sr. QB versus moving to Stony Brooke and virtual football oblivion. To choose number two would be an admission of guilt to me.
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Or that he doesn't want to represent a university he feels didn't do him justice. That'd be reason enough for me to want to leave.
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this.
 
Hawkeye27 said:
I see where you're trying to go. But, why would you want to stay in a situation where justice was not served, and you had your image totally slandered? Thinking long term about his career as an astrophysicist, that may have been his best decision in his eyes.
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And a perspective I had not seen...if he was thinking about his career after football. My next question would be, what kind of astrophysics department does SB have? Answer that, and you may be onto something.

Rumor has it his leaving was a part of the settlement process...personnally, and this is just me, I wouldn't let this go if I didn't do anything wrong no matter what the public relations or public scrutiny may bring. He's been villified regardless and he's lost something he obviously didn't want to walk away from. I just couldn't walk if I didn't do anything and it was all consentual. My last take is that someone lawyered up and told him he was fighting a losing battle and to take the deal...or possibly end up in jail with the way the evidence measured up. With those options...I'm running the ball at SB too.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
And a perspective I had not seen...if he was thinking about his career after football. My next question would be, what kind of astrophysics department does SB have? Answer that, and you may be onto something.

Rumor has it his leaving was a part of the settlement process...personnally, and this is just me, I wouldn't let this go if I didn't do anything wrong no matter what the public relations or public scrutiny may bring. He's been villified regardless and he's lost something he obviously didn't want to walk away from. I just couldn't walk if I didn't do anything and it was all consentual. My last take is that someone lawyered up and told him he was fighting a losing battle and to take the deal...or possibly end up in jail with the way the evidence measured up. With those options...I'm running the ball at SB too.
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Jail was never in the equation. The u of Iowa is a cesspool taken over feminist thought and Coker is just another victim of the angry studies program. Watch the classic movie PCU sometime.
 
I would guess everything that Coker said is true. The big differences are probably the size of the players and the size of the crowd on Saturdays.

I have no idea about the facts of the Coker situation. But if either of his long-term goals include a career in the natural sciences or playing in the National Football League, Stony Brook won't be an obstacle. And if his goal was to also have anything resembling a normal college experience, that might have become fairly difficult in Iowa City.
 
WinOneThisCentury said:
And a perspective I had not seen...if he was thinking about his career after football. My next question would be, what kind of astrophysics department does SB have? Answer that, and you may be onto something.

Rumor has it his leaving was a part of the settlement process...personnally, and this is just me, I wouldn't let this go if I didn't do anything wrong no matter what the public relations or public scrutiny may bring. He's been villified regardless and he's lost something he obviously didn't want to walk away from. I just couldn't walk if I didn't do anything and it was all consentual. My last take is that someone lawyered up and told him he was fighting a losing battle and to take the deal...or possibly end up in jail with the way the evidence measured up. With those options...I'm running the ball at SB too.
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Like you said, he's vilified regardless of what he would have done. So why not remove yourself from that environment and go someplace where all that doesn't matter? The opinion of Iowa City natives or Iowans in general won't affect him at all, but it would have if he had stayed.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Jail was never in the equation. The u of Iowa is a cesspool taken over feminist thought and Coker is just another victim of the angry studies program. Watch the classic movie PCU sometime.
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O'Keefe, what was in the equation? I don't recall many public facts about the situation. What do you know and how did you find out this information?
 
SwirlinLingerie said:
I would guess everything that Coker said is true. The big differences are probably the size of the players and the size of the crowd on Saturdays.

I have no idea about the facts of the Coker situation. But if either of his long-term goals include a career in the natural sciences or playing in the National Football League, Stony Brook won't be an obstacle. And if his goal was to also have anything resembling a normal college experience, that might have become fairly difficult in Iowa City.
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So what you are saying is that the football team, his closest friends, and majority of the fan base, Iowa football diehards, would have abandoned him? I'm not getting that...but ok. Is it possible to be wrongly accused these days or are the consequences for fighting for truth and justice simply too great? I certainly hope you can be wrongly accused...because if you believe everything every woman or policeman says...well, you eventually will be extremely disappointed when the tape or video comes out. I'm not a woman hater or trying to minimize the situation at all...much to the contrary...I believe he did something wrong here and his action or choice was the result.
 
I am not saying that. I don't know what happened. But I am suggesting that fighting accusations of some type of sexual assault - or perhaps even rumors of an assault - in a public setting isn't anything resembling a normal college experience.

He can likely realize both athletic and academic goals at Stony Brook - that is what I was saying.
 
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