Coach confirms that Aaron White is not a 3

[9YRPLAN]

white doesnt really have a position, but he will eventually defend well enough and pose a matchup problem on offense. this is why i would like to see him first off the bench.

next year:

Gesell/Clemmons/Marble if needed
Oglesby/Gesell/ Ingram
Marble/May/White/Ingram
Basabe/White/McCabe/Meyer
Woodbury/Meyer/Olaseni

 

[ColumbusHawk]

Give us a link where Fran called White a 3. Thats all you have to do herby. Quit pulling comments out of you arse if you have no proof to back them up.

Just like he keeps claiming that Marble & McCabe were released from their letters-of-intent.

Sorry, I had to change that awful spelling error.

 

[Section136]

Just like he kepts claiming that Marble & McCabe were released from their letters-of-intent.

Haha. That is herby's thing. Pulls baseless comments out of his backside and if he repeats them enough he hopes people will take them as fact.

 

[JHHawk]

I really doubt that there will ever be a ''set in stone'' lineup next year. It will be a rotation,where Fran will matchup as best he can. Injuries,and player development thruout the year will also dictate. As Fran indicated,we have a number of guys who can play several positions...a good thing.
White is a 4/3,Marble is a 1/2/3, McCabe is a 4/5/3,May is a 3/2, Mel is a 4/5, Ogles is a 2, Gabe is a 5.
The new guys we do not know about yet,really.

Clearly,tho,we do have a need at the 2 spot,with Oglesby/Ingram penciled in there.
I hope Fran can find a juco or prep school guy to deepen that position with a shooter. In this era,you never have enough shooters from the arc.

 

[EddyP]

white doesnt really have a position, but he will eventually defend well enough and pose a matchup problem on offense. this is why i would like to see him first off the bench.

next year:

Gesell/Clemmons/Marble if needed
Oglesby/Gesell/ Ingram
Marble/May/White/Ingram
Basabe/White/McCabe/Meyer
Woodbury/Meyer/Olaseni

You are crazy.

 

[olivecourt]

I agree.

He seemed to have rushed many of his shots. I think the problem was that he had trouble adjusting to the speed of the game. The adjustment from high school to college basketball is tremendous. The players are just so much bigger, faster & stronger.

With one year under his belt, I expect big improvement in his shooting next year.

He was also part of an offensive system that stagnated far too often. On a team with a really good point guard and a legitimate post that was able to get some drive-and-kick/inside-outside action going on, he could be lethal.

 

[Foval21]

herby the only comments i can find from fran are similar to that he made about meyer. which is he is a post with some 3 skills. that means he is mainly (75% +) a 4 and sometimes a 3. simple understanding. could things change next yr? yes. but if you go based off the information we have he is our starting 4.

if he was a solid 3 then there would be no reason for fran to be looking at wings for this class and he could bank a scholly for next yr. but he is looking so we know he thinks our wings arent as strong as they could be.

olaseni will not be a major contributor until his jr at the earliest. he just needs basketball education since he has played like 5 yrs. and i dont think he will ever start a game for iowa. i hope he is a cross between evans and hansen. great rebounder and shot blocker any offense is a plus.

 

[9YRPLAN]

You are crazy.

and i think that 90% of people are overestimating aaron's ceiling.

 

[HawkForce]

True big men take the longest to develop of any player in hoops. What Gabe can do is run the floor extremely well..he is also very long. Those are things you can't teach up. You can help a player develop an offensive game. If Gabe can give Iowa quality minutes as a junior and senior, that would be great. Look at a guy like Ryan Bowen. Avgs around 5 a game his first two years, then 11, then 15. He could run and was a longish sort of player. It's waaaaay to early to write the book on Olaseni. Iowa is still going to be a program that takes a chance here and there. Given Aaron White's lack of high major offers, Iowa took a chance on him and it's paid off immensely. I will say this about Fran; he does talk very bullishly about his players, perhaps too much. He elevates the expectations perhaps a big too much with some of that hyperbole. Maybe he does it to motivate his players, sort of a one man good cop/bad cop bit as he gets into them in practice and such.

I think it had a negative effect in Ogelsby's case for sure. Saying he's the best shooter you've ever coached is too much pressure to put on a freshman. I have no doubt that is what he believes but probably best not to say it. But I think that is Fran, he's very honest and says what he thinks.

i dont think Fran believes that...he says these things to get fans excited...he was a marketing major I believe...players are just collateral damage.

 

[HomerChampless]

If AW is not going to be a 3, he'd better put on some weight, put on some muscle, learn some post moves, learn to jump, and not shoot as much from long range...
Pretty much be an altogether different player than this year. Should Mel join AW in the transformation training?

 

[ibahawkeye]

If AW is not going to be a 3, he'd better put on some weight, put on some muscle, learn some post moves, learn to jump, and not shoot as much from long range...
Pretty much be an altogether different player than this year. Should Mel join AW in the transformation training?

You realize that White played the 4 spot this year right??

 

[Section136]

If AW is not going to be a 3, he'd better put on some weight, put on some muscle, learn some post moves, learn to jump, and not shoot as much from long range...
Pretty much be an altogether different player than this year. Should Mel join AW in the transformation training?

Yeah, because 4's are relegated strictly to the block.


It would be such a shame to have a guy playing the 4 that possesses some of the skills of a prototypical 3.

 

[herbyhawk]

i am not going back 11 months or so to find the quote for you.. if White is strictly a 4. other than May who is going to back up Marble if he plays the 3, and May has not shown he can stay healthy and in dealing with a back injury, that is not a good thing to have, has some players never fully recover to be competetive, its funny how coaches say one thing and do another, lets see next fall get here and see how players progress and see where they play, before writing them off, and we are a little over a month away before the spring signing period starts.
what do expect a coach to say when someone asks him if he still recruiting? NO: i am done looking at kids this spring and i am looking only at the next group of kids?

 

[RocknRollface]

He was also part of an offensive system that stagnated far too often. On a team with a really good point guard and a legitimate post that was able to get some drive-and-kick/inside-outside action going on, he could be lethal.

Agree,

Iowa had no penetrators and no real post up players. There is probably not another team in the country that has neither of those options.

Its surprising they were able to be in as many games as they were in.

 

[RocknRollface]

If AW is not going to be a 3, he'd better put on some weight, put on some muscle, learn some post moves, learn to jump, and not shoot as much from long range...
Pretty much be an altogether different player than this year. Should Mel join AW in the transformation training?

So you clearly aren't aware that he exclusively played the four this year.

 

[EddyP]

and i think that 90% of people are overestimating aaron's ceiling.

What's his ceiling what he did this year? I'll take it.

 

[sportstalent]

and i think that 90% of people are overestimating aaron's ceiling.

Well, if people are overestimating his ceiling, people very much underestimated his ability coming out of high school, many on this board.

White will get much higher than anyone's original ceiling; that is in part due to his work ethic and his wanting to prove something to everyone, not to mention the fact that he is a very intelligent basketball player and plays harder than most of the players on the court. His intangibles will make him better than most.