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I don't really disagree with any of your points, but I believe there is a difference between forcing a legendary coach out, versus that legendary coach choosing to step aside and make way for someone else.
I am not sure if the chance of continued success necessarily goes up with a smooth transition, but I think it does add some element of stability to the process. I wish more coaches would go out at a high point vs. bleeding all of their goodwill dry prior to making the decision. That is to say, I would not agree with Getz forcing KF out, but I would not be that disappointed if KF decided on his own it was time to hang it up.
thedukeofearl
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Who said we'd trade places with anyone. Iiowa is not Nebraska or Wisconsin last time I checked. Different administrations in place. Get the right hire and things may be fine.
I'm a glass is half full guy with a new hire versus your view of the glass is half empty.
For you to deny the game of football has passed KF by seems odd to me. Offensive stats with his son as the OC, which should never have been allowed, tell the truth about this.
Without a strong defense, which KF keeps his hands off of along with special teams, is why Iowa has done so well.
We all know KF's hands are on the offense more so than any other phase and that's had pretty bad results in the past 5 years.
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NorthKCHawk
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The problem with this approach is that if the legendary coach is still at or near the top of his performance, which KF is, then a smooth transition usually means a handpicked successor that is already on staff. Under those circumstances the legendary coach may want to elevate his dopey kid. I mean, Iowa would never do something so foolish (eye roll) but it sounds like North Carolina might make such a devil's pact.
If the legendary coach has fallen off the throne, like Coach Fry, then the school and the coach need to jointly and properly do the right thing by putting the coach out to pasture with appropriate pomp and circumstance and then start from scratch and hope that you replace the legend with another legend.
I don't believe KF is going to retire on his own anytime soon. So, either time catches up to him and he has a sucky year, or he keeps pumping out 8-10 wins a year. But here is Fry's point. When he is out, whichever way, what are the odds we are going to hire another 20+ year legendary winner of a coach? Its astronomically unlikely, purely from a statistical analysis. Heaters don't last forever. Enjoy them while you can.
Here's the deal.
KF has been successful, at least from an Iowa perspective, for a long time. Iowa has also benefited quite well in recent years with schedules that have overall been somewhat easy.
He is eventually going to retire, and at this point that's likely going to be sooner versus later and Iowa will need to hire someone. I'll say it again, I trust BG to make a good hire due to the fact she canned BF while she was still the interim AD. That took some guts and was the right move. KF was not going to fire or demote his son, even though BF's performance dictated it should have happened before BG arrived.
As a fan of college football in general, watching Iowa play is quite boring compared to other schools. I guess if I lived in Iowa and had nothing else to do, that may not bother me as much.
Fortunately I have other options on Saturdays in addition to the Hawks.
And, as I've also said before, I was a Hawk fan in all sports since long before KF was at Iowa. So I'll always be a Hawk fan even if I don't feel a coach should still be around.
My being a fan began in the late 1960's. So I don't mind having an opinion that differs from others. I've seen the worst and best of times from a FB and BB perspective.
KF has been successful, at least from an Iowa perspective, for a long time. Iowa has also benefited quite well in recent years with schedules that have overall been somewhat easy.
He is eventually going to retire, and at this point that's likely going to be sooner versus later and Iowa will need to hire someone. I'll say it again, I trust BG to make a good hire due to the fact she canned BF while she was still the interim AD. That took some guts and was the right move. KF was not going to fire or demote his son, even though BF's performance dictated it should have happened before BG arrived.
As a fan of college football in general, watching Iowa play is quite boring compared to other schools. I guess if I lived in Iowa and had nothing else to do, that may not bother me as much.
Fortunately I have other options on Saturdays in addition to the Hawks.
And, as I've also said before, I was a Hawk fan in all sports since long before KF was at Iowa. So I'll always be a Hawk fan even if I don't feel a coach should still be around.
My being a fan began in the late 1960's. So I don't mind having an opinion that differs from others. I've seen the worst and best of times from a FB and BB perspective.
thedukeofearl
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We all continue to watch the Hawks no matter their record
Bleeding Black and Blue Blood on occasion
They make my Winters much more bearable and actually enjoyable
However, I am not expecting the Men's Basketball team to win tonight against the clowns
The women tomorrow night have a better chance of winning
Go Hawks
Bleeding Black and Blue Blood on occasion
They make my Winters much more bearable and actually enjoyable
However, I am not expecting the Men's Basketball team to win tonight against the clowns
The women tomorrow night have a better chance of winning
Go Hawks
Being a 44 yr old I've had a lifetime of being proud to be a Hawk. One my age doesn't have to look long and hard around the sports landscape not just college football to know how good we've had it as Hawk fans. You can have the best AD best administrators in the world that doesn't guarantee you shit that the next hire will be good let alone KF/Fry level great for so long. Wisconsin had a hell of a good thing going for quite awhile and that switch got flipped. Neb is well Neb.
If our next coach does well enough to stick around 10 yrs let alone say 14 plus I'll be socks off surprised. Those odds have to be extremely low.
Fryowa
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"May" is the key word here.
Pigs also "may" fly out of my ass, but it's extremely unlikely that they will. Wisconsin and nebraska "may" have been better had they hired the right coach, but collectively they've whiffed 5 times in a row.
It's quite possible the game might have passed him by. But I'm not ready to start playing russian roulette when the current guy is winning way more than he's losing.
Terrible argument. Statistically, almost every football team regresses when there's a coaching change. Very, very few improve their performance and even fewer maintain that improved performance. That's not my opinion, that's fact. Give us a list of hires contrary to that if you want me to believe there's a good chance of improvement, and I'll give you a list of 100 hires that shit the bed.
Consistency is the one thing almost all teams nowadays lack and Iowa under Fry and Ferentz have it. If that's not enough for you that's your opinion, but don't try and tell us there's anything even close to a 50/50 chance that a coaching hire at Iowa works out. It's more like 98/2 that it gets worse.
Look at the list @99topdawg posted of the number of teams that have won at least 8 games each of the past 10 years. It's pretty short, pal.
Alabama
Ohio State
Clemson
Georgia
Iowa
And you want to mess with things...You don't understand how this whole thing works.
thedukeofearl
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BigD
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Lol, now this post made me laugh.
NorthKCHawk
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I hope you figured out you had the men's and women's nights mixed up.
Lady Hawks pulled out a tough victory.
thedukeofearl
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I hope you figured out you had the men's and women's nights mixed up.
Lady Hawks pulled out a tough victory.
Watched the entire game and participated in the game thread
Excellent game by the Hawks
And it was a fun game thread, one of the better ones
Go Hawks, the men have their hands full against the male clowns
I have watched them play and they are legitimately a top five team
As extremely intense as any team I have seen this year
GO HAWKS
