CALLING OUT HUCK FINN

[blubberhawk]

Some of you are never happy. First there is a clamor to play the backups. Play Stanley. Get experience to build on for next year. Then it's "pulled the starters too early".

Well I am in the camp of....They got some good experience but we also saw that there is a big drop off from the number one's to the backups. Stanley looks decent, but he isn't ready for prime time. I think it clear that Iowa is a young team. We have some good experienced upper class men and when they go down, Iowa is hurting.
As we have seen with Vandenburg. He was Iowa's one good receiver and with him out Iowa is trying to get our young receivers up to speed. The youngsters may not make the grade this year, but this experience will pay big dividends next year and beyond.

He pulled the starters at 42-14 with the ball on Purdue's side of the field. Maybe a series early but he'd already lost Meyers and Kittle. The 2nd team flopped.

If he keeps the first team in and Iowa wins 56-21 but King/Jewell/Welsh etc gets dinged up, he's getting killed on here right now. He's damned if does, damned if he doesn't.

I was not enamored with how he subbed yesterday, but I continue to be more upset about his philosophy. Game after game, we let really average quarterbacks look like All-Americans by staying in the same damn vanilla defenses. Very little stunting or blitzing. Heat the damn kid up! Hurry his throws. And get some guys on the field (if we have any) that can run in obvious passing situations. (meaning the entire damn second half yesterday) Wisconsin was blitzing guys all night long from all over the field last night against OSU. Their kids played with intensity and fire. I am sure they loved the aggressiveness their coach was allowing them to play with.
The Iowa way (4 slow guys rushing the passer + 3 slow linebackers dropping in coverage) = 450 passing yards by a very average qb. And keep in mind, he threw for this many yards with out any semblance of a running attack.

 

[HawkeyeDenis]

I was not enamored with how he subbed yesterday, but I continue to be more upset about his philosophy. Game after game, we let really average quarterbacks look like All-Americans by staying in the same damn vanilla defenses. Very little stunting or blitzing. Heat the damn kid up! Hurry his throws. And get some guys on the field (if we have any) that can run in obvious passing situations. (meaning the entire damn second half yesterday) Wisconsin was blitzing guys all night long from all over the field last night against OSU. Their kids played with intensity and fire. I am sure they loved the aggressiveness their coach was allowing them to play with.
The Iowa way (4 slow guys rushing the passer + 3 slow linebackers dropping in coverage) = 450 passing yards by a very average qb. And keep in mind, he threw for this many yards with out any semblance of a running attack.[/QUOTE
This Iowa team is average at best. Couple of good players here and there. With the loss of Norm Parker the defense is average. And now with nothing but young receivers, Iowa is less than vanilla.

 

[hawkeyes87]

we also saw that there is a big drop off from the number one's to the backups. Stanley looks decent, but he isn't ready for prime time.

You must have a keen eye to make this assessment based on Stanley's extremely limited body of work.

Were you really so disappointed in the way he handed the ball off?

 

[hawkinn3]

Hot take alert!!!!!

 

[atomicblue224]

I don't understand !

 

[HawkeyeDenis]

You must have a keen eye to make this assessment based on Stanley's extremely limited body of work.

Were you really so disappointed in the way he handed the ball off?

He also passed, led the receiver too much. He has good size, he is light. As for his experience if you watched closely, his ability to audible was limited with the basic plays he ran. He doesn't have command of the offense yet. And this isn't the first time he has been on the field. The game will probably be posted later today or tomorrow. Watch it.

 

[tksirius]

He also passed, led the receiver too much. He has good size, he is light. As for his experience if you watched closely, his ability to audible was limited with the basic plays he ran. He doesn't have command of the offense yet. And this isn't the first time he has been on the field. The game will probably be posted later today or tomorrow. Watch it.

OMG it hurts. Like the last time CJ came out and Stanley marched them to the endzone.... Conveniently forgot about that one, didn't ya.

 

[hawkeyes87]

He also passed, led the receiver too much. He has good size, he is light. As for his experience if you watched closely, his ability to audible was limited with the basic plays he ran. He doesn't have command of the offense yet. And this isn't the first time he has been on the field. The game will probably be posted later today or tomorrow. Watch it.

Yesterday he was 2/3, season 5/8. Audibles- seriously? You think he has free reign there? Like I said, you're assessing a lot based on so little evidence.

 

[Joshbrown]

I was not enamored with how he subbed yesterday, but I continue to be more upset about his philosophy. Game after game, we let really average quarterbacks look like All-Americans by staying in the same damn vanilla defenses. Very little stunting or blitzing. Heat the damn kid up! Hurry his throws. And get some guys on the field (if we have any) that can run in obvious passing situations. (meaning the entire damn second half yesterday) Wisconsin was blitzing guys all night long from all over the field last night against OSU. Their kids played with intensity and fire. I am sure they loved the aggressiveness their coach was allowing them to play with.
The Iowa way (4 slow guys rushing the passer + 3 slow linebackers dropping in coverage) = 450 passing yards by a very average qb. And keep in mind, he threw for this many yards with out any semblance of a running attack.

Philosophy, that's a good way to describe it. I knew when the back-ups went in Cirk would put the training-wheels on and dare Purdue to make the score closer. And of course they did. I can hear the half-time speech now.

"Okay fellas the second half is about perfect execution. Two things we're gonna avoid hurting: Starters and feelings. Now go out there and play a predictable game! Huzzah!!!!"

 

[judzeehawk]

This is strictly my own opinion. Our defense is horrible. They are the most boring unenthusiastic creation I've seen in a Hawkeye defense for quite some time. Way to predictable and just plain slow. Even if we did blitz from all over the field I don't think we'd still get there. This may be a little over the top but it's how it looks. How do you think other teams look at us? Fire away. Dicky I'm sure you will have a lot of vulgar comments and shower me with your extreme knowledge.

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

You must have a keen eye to make this assessment based on Stanley's extremely limited body of work.

Were you really so disappointed in the way he handed the ball off?

I was also dissappointed in the playcalling with the backups in, but Stanley's first 2 plays I think we're passes, a short one and then a missed slant. If he hits the slant, they get a first down, and gets more chances.

Stanley looks good, and I do wish they would more with all of the playcalling, but he likely is limited with what minimal playbook we do have.

I didn't expect as much dropoff from the 1's to 2's...but maybe I should have as we do not have much depth.

All we can hope is there is a lot of teaching moments from the film. Which it appears there is.

 

[HuckFinn]

This is why I'm a fan who wants a coach who thinks 78-0 is classy. Keeping every team in the game to protect their feelings is not the sign of a good coach. Demoralizing your opponent should be the goal.

I certainly take no offense for being "called out." The fans around me at the Purdue game, including a lot of players' parents, were really annoyed with the Purdue coach for leaving his starters in when KF pulled the starters. We also thought KF should have responded immediately, put the starters back in, and tried to run up the score from there. I. Certainly agreed.

I will be the first to tell you that the "new breed" of head coaches in D 1 football are more inclined to do whar khaki pants did to Rutgers. KF is likely a throwback to what I define as good sportsmanship and respect. So, I will stick with my views on this topic, recognizing that I am a relic. I am ok with that...

 

[HawkeyeDenis]

Yesterday he was 2/3, season 5/8. Audibles- seriously? You think he has free reign there? Like I said, you're assessing a lot based on so little evidence.

He isn't ready. Period.

 

[HawkeyeDenis]

OMG it hurts. Like the last time CJ came out and Stanley marched them to the endzone.... Conveniently forgot about that one, didn't ya.

I remembered that. I also remember that Vandenburg was playing. And what big competition was that against?

 

[jldhawk]

The three different punts from Purdue's 30 yard line was just ridiculous. Either kick the field goal or go for it. You don't f****** punt from the opponent's 30 unless you're playing in a freaking hurricane.

Exactly. Stupid! Get you kicker some practice at it even if he doesn't make it! At least try one kick and go for one. And people wonder why Kirk has so many critics when its this easy to see.

 

[deanvogs]

Exactly. Stupid! Get you kicker some practice at it even if he doesn't make it! At least try one kick and go for one. And people wonder why Kirk has so many critics when its this easy to see.

You do understand Iowa plays that totally different if it is actually a game at that point, right? All Chicken Hawks, please read this link.

 

[jldhawk]

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You do understand Iowa plays that totally different if it is actually a game at that point, right? All Chicken Hawks, please read this link.

Ummmm... yeah.... sure do. And this is exactly why Kirk doesn't develop players properly (and I don't meant for the NFL if they have that amount of talent). It is just like the game plan we had going into Miami OH or whoever it was early in the year where CJB said it was about the most basic gameplan we could put in. Welllll how about making sure your offense plays a full gameplan because at some point you will need the offense to have gone through that regression. Just like a kicker needs it, just like your 2nd String offense going for it on 4th down from the 35.

 

[deanvogs]

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Ummmm... yeah.... sure do. And this is exactly why Kirk doesn't develop players properly (and I don't meant for the NFL if they have that amount of talent). It is just like the game plan we had going into Miami OH or whoever it was early in the year where CJB said it was about the most basic gameplan we could put in. Welllll how about making sure your offense plays a full gameplan because at some point you will need the offense to have gone through that regression. Just like a kicker needs it, just like your 2nd String offense going for it on 4th down from the 35.

The Chicken Hawks want a pound of flesh.......if you think that KF can't "developing" players, because he didn't attempt 45+ yd FG's in a blowout, then there is nothing I can say to you that will change your mind.

 

[hwk23]

KF was toying with our arch rivals, dangling the carrot. Seriously though, if we didn't play the 2nd stringers people would be complaining about that to.

 

[uihawk82]

Some of you are never happy. First there is a clamor to play the backups. Play Stanley. Get experience to build on for next year. Then it's "pulled the starters too early".

Well I am in the camp of....They got some good experience but we also saw that there is a big drop off from the number one's to the backups. Stanley looks decent, but he isn't ready for prime time. I think it clear that Iowa is a young team. We have some good experienced upper class men and when they go down, Iowa is hurting.
As we have seen with Vandenburg. He was Iowa's one good receiver and with him out Iowa is trying to get our young receivers up to speed. The youngsters may not make the grade this year, but this experience will pay big dividends next year and beyond.

Totally disagree because McCarron has picked up Vandy's catches and Kittle is very good. Smith and Scheel are giving a couple good targets a game.

Kids are going to drop a couple passes but hopefully rarely.

Heck, Julio Jones bounced one off his hands yesterday that led to a pick and a winning FG by the Seahawks.