hawkeyebob62
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Aside from the glaring late-to-the-game move to put Jackson on Mahongou, I would agree.
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Aside from the glaring late-to-the-game move to put Jackson on Mahongou, I would agree.
Seth53
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BTR is seeking penance these days.
Don't cha know, he single-handily ran KoK out of town after 2010.
No more good offenses. No more excitement. No more bowl wins.
Say 10 Hail Mary's and pass the non-union Coors.
homes
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While I believe he can end up being a good OC, learning to be one on the job is a huge risk to the program. I doubt (with almost certainty) that an OL coach at a P5 conference who had designs on being an OC would have even been given a second thought if he had applied to Iowa last year. Yet, this is what Iowa got.
However, he doesn't have the benefit of learning on the job in some obscure program. Because of where he's coaching, and who he is, his success timetable has been accelerated to next year; if it doesn't happen next year, I have the feeling (again with almost certainty) that we'll just be observers to the string being played out until Kirk retires. Nothing will change, 6-8 wins a year, an upset here and there, but not as many as losses to teams that Iowa should beat. And these same discussions will be recycled.
However, he doesn't have the benefit of learning on the job in some obscure program. Because of where he's coaching, and who he is, his success timetable has been accelerated to next year; if it doesn't happen next year, I have the feeling (again with almost certainty) that we'll just be observers to the string being played out until Kirk retires. Nothing will change, 6-8 wins a year, an upset here and there, but not as many as losses to teams that Iowa should beat. And these same discussions will be recycled.
EstronHawkKing
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this might be a thread that just goes on forever, kind of like that 'Stross Thread" that was on Hawkeye Insider.
Knight78
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Just to throw out some facts......
Ken O'Keefe's first year as an FBS offensive coordinator was 1999 with Iowa. We were 1-10. We averaged 14.7 points per game. (He did have experience as an OC and a HC at DIII Allegheny College)
Greg Davis' first year as offensive coordinator was 1992 with Arkansas. They were 3-7. They averaged 15.6 points per game.
So far, in Brian's first year as offensive coordinator, we are 6-5. We are averaging 25.8 points per game.
So what conclusions could be drawn from first year offensive coordinators?
Note: I'm not a Brian apologist. Just looking at facts.
Stanzi
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Without having any stats to back it up I have to think that teams now a days are scoring a lot more on average than 20 or 30 years ago. On top of that, BF has more talent on this team than the Iowa team when Kirk and KOK took over.
kameltoez102
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Those facts are interesting but there is also a fact that we beat down an Ohio State Team that was pretty good by playing outside our tendencies. Then the next two games we go right back to what we were doing before we had the "breakout" game. It is just something I cannot explain and don't know who to point the finger at.
The question is always brought up about KF wanting to do certain things but has it really been answered as to how much input during the game he has on what plays are run? Is he changing calls? Does he veto calls? On his notebook does he have plays written down to the short side of the field? I still feel the OC needs to be down on the sidelines and with the technology now he can get snapshots of the formations immediately after the plays so I am not sure why they need to be in the box. IThe OC is a leadership position and there needs to be that presence. BF is a fiery guy and maybe it would help having that on the sideline as it doesn't seem like we have many coaches that are going to get in a players face and call them out when they are not performing
BF is taking over an offense with mo
Agree 100%. BF should be on the sideline and KOK in the booth.
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homes
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It's 5 losses in the Big Ten where Iowa scored a total of 7 offensive touchdowns. That's also a fact.
If the average points per game were scored in each game, Iowa would be 7-1/10-1 right now, not 3-5/6-5. That's why people look back and think this season could have been much better. Not saying he can't get it done, but the dips can't outweigh the bumps.
ArvadaHawk
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well, it was 3 cb's on one drive and it was the second scoring drive. you might have thought about putting JJ on that guy during the first drive, you know, after the third straight time they ran the same play to the same wr. we figured it out only after we'd allowed them an insurmountable lead.
hawkeyebob62
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Absolutely. He has been a decent coordinator in his tenure, but I agreed with the poster I quoted, i.e, if he left I would not be upset. I don't think he deserves to be canned, though.
ArvadaHawk
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There are only a couple of asst coaches I wouldn't mind keeping; Parker is one of them, Morgan, Woods and Copeland are others. Otherwise, I'd like the staff gone.
MoseSchrute
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I'll agree with Parker and Morgan, unsure about the other two. Will be a big loss when Morgan retires.
hawkeyebob62
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Yes, it will. Amazing, to me, is that he "appeared" to come on staff without the glitzy resume'.
