Bowl system will never be good again.

If you watch the amazing intensity of an NFL playoff game you see that 95% of the bowl games do not match them in excitement.

1. they are played on a neutral site without home field pandemonium.
2. There really isnt anything to wrap your head around in winning most of them.
3. No one cares about half the teams that plays in them.

College football for sure has the most meanginless undramatic post season out of any sport and its a shame because it is the best regular season sport around.
 
I really wish it would just go back to the old way, with no BCS title game. The New Years Bowl games actually meant something, I could have cared less about the Oklahoma State vs Stanford game, with the old system there were multiple games that effected the national title picture.

Bingo. Used to be that a #4 team playing in the Sugar or Orange Bowl on New Year's night could win the title if things shook out right. The WHOLE DAY was excitement.
 
Bingo. Used to be that a #4 team playing in the Sugar or Orange Bowl on New Year's night could win the title if things shook out right. The WHOLE DAY was excitement.

How many seasons would you put up with a good/great Iowa team that didn't get into the Rose Bowl - therefore wouldn't be in any bowl?
 
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How many seasons would you put up with a good/great Iowa team that didn't get into the Rose Bowl - therefore wouldn't be in any bowl?

I'm not talking about 1960. It was like this in the 1990s as well when the Hawks went to many bowl games other than the Rose.
 
At the very least I would have #1 play #4 and #2 play #3 then the winners play for championship. But I would rather see a 16 game playoff.
 
There will not be a playoff, get over it. Why are many of you still complaining about it? The way I see it, If we did have a 16 team playoff Iowa would have less of a chance of playing in the post season and getting extra practices and recruiting would suffer. The regular season is like a playoff anyway,every game counts. Get over it, and quit complaining.
 
There will not be a playoff, get over it. Why are many of you still complaining about it? The way I see it, If we did have a 16 team playoff Iowa would have less of a chance of playing in the post season and getting extra practices and recruiting would suffer. The regular season is like a playoff anyway,every game counts. Get over it, and quit complaining.

This is the big ticket. You don't think recruits want to play in bowl games? Most of these games have little impact on the national landscape, but bowls help in recruiting. And if you aren't a brand name program, you need that boost. We are not a brand name program.
 
Bowl games mean just as much now as they ever did, and their were some great ones yesterday.

The problem is that Iowa hasn't been in a decent one for too long now.
 
How the heck do bowl games help in recruiting? Hell, about 70 of the 115 or so teams end up in a bowl game. Just about everyone goes to a bowl.
 
How the heck do bowl games help in recruiting? Hell, about 70 of the 115 or so teams end up in a bowl game. Just about everyone goes to a bowl.

Yeah, that's why recruits are pounding on Duke's door. They want to play in bowl games. For some recruits, the standard is higher (BCS). But many aren't so selective.

Plus, getting exposure in Florida and Texas can only help. Ditto for the extra practices.

There are too many games, I grant you that. But it's hardly BCS-or-bust when it comes to recruiting.
 
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If you watch the amazing intensity of an NFL playoff game you see that 95% of the bowl games do not match them in excitement.

1. they are played on a neutral site without home field pandemonium.
2. There really isnt anything to wrap your head around in winning most of them.
3. No one cares about half the teams that plays in them.
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Its hard to beat the NFL's postseason. 11 win or go home games over 4 weekends. Would love to see college adopt this model but as other posters have said, not gonna happen, ever.
 
If they used a playoff, say top 16, regular season games would matter. Could use the current BCS bowls as some playoff games, and still have the other bowls for teams not in the running. Everybody still gets paid, and we get a true national champ.
 
If they used a playoff, say top 16, regular season games would matter. Could use the current BCS bowls as some playoff games, and still have the other bowls for teams not in the running. Everybody still gets paid, and we get a true national champ.

There have never ever been 16 teams in a given season who deserved a shot at the title.
 
Well then, top 8. What I'm saying is they could manage playoff system, and keep all the meaningless bowls if they wanted to.
 
I think what most do not want is the "Conference Championship" games not mattering anymore, and/or the regular season.

Besides middle of the Road Teams in Basketball, or "bubble" teams- the Conference Tourney is pointless. Just adds wins to the total, or if you have injuries as a 1 or 2 seed to your main players in Basketball you can rest them and take an L.

Obviously, my point (as others mentioned previously)- is that teams that go 10-0 and have 3 games left, no matter the competition, could "afford" to lose one or two games and still make the playoffs. Look no further than some of the NFL games in weeks 16 & 17 that had no relevance on playoff positioning (even though some did). Plus theres no 'fair' cutoff point in the rankings.

To sum it all up, basically, the only possible playoff structure that is "fair" is a +1. The way the BCS verbaige is spelled out, dictates the top 4 in BCS are ensured a spot in the BCS selection. So, it's very easy to state that those same 4 teams 'playoff' for a Championship.

It also aligns every teams goal is to get into the top 14 to get into a BCS game. The other BCS teams (#5-#14 or ten teams remaining) are chosen to play in the existing BCS games plus the Cotton/Cap1 bowl according to the current selection process. Those three additional BCS games from this 4 team playoff are played on a rotation between the 5 BCS Sites. The 1 v 4 & 2 v 3 games are played 1-3 days after the designated site. The Championship Site is a different site from the first round 7-10 days after the first round is played.

Using this year as an example: Rose, Orange, and Sugar are the "playoff" sites. The Rose & Orange are the first round games 1-3 days after the actuall games with the Sugar hosting the National Championship like they are supposed to this year. Dates are below using this year as an example.

Regular Rose Jan 2
Regular Sugar Jan 3
Regular Orange Jan 4
Playoff Rose Jan 5
Playoff Orange Jan 6
BCS Champ Sugar Jan 14


Any non-BCS Bowl that loses a traditional selection to the new BCS +1 will be allowed to chose from ANY team remaining in the eligible pool of D-1 teams (meaning any conference.) Each bowl would be placed into tiers allowing the bowl reps to literally have full control of picking either a great matchup by records or by old/new rivalries.

Outside of "trimming the fat" of nominal bowls, and how 'loyal' they are to respective conferences. I think they are all loyal to $$, which is what this fat cash cow would bring.
 
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Funny how some of you say college football has the best regular season but you want a playoff system. Why does college football have the best regular season, because there ISN'T a playoff, I get the fact that people don't like the system that is in place now but don't say you love the regular season and say you want a playoff because you can't have one with the other, just the way it is.
 
Could Have looked Like this

Rose
Oregon vs Wisconsin

Orange
Va Tech vs Baylor

Fiesta
Kansas St vs Michigan

Sugar
Arkansas vs Boise St

Cap1/Cotton
S.Carolina vs Oklahoma

& the +1:

1 LSU
4 Stanford

2 Alabama
3 Oklahoma St
 
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Funny how some of you say college football has the best regular season but you want a playoff system. Why does college football have the best regular season, because there ISN'T a playoff, I get the fact that people don't like the system that is in place now but don't say you love the regular season and say you want a playoff because you can't have one with the other, just the way it is.

You most certainly can. A playoff would make the regular season much more meaningful.

If all the "BCS" conferences added enough teams to have championship game then all the conference champions would then advance to a playoff.

That would truly make the regular season a "playoff" from game one.

As it stands the regular season is still influenced by voters, which is absurd, and the bowl selection is much more influenced by which teams can produce the most money rather than which teams had the best seasons.
 

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