Big Ten + ND and that's all
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troy
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If this is true, then Nebraska should have voted "yes" to the Big 12. They could get left out in the cold with the 'Clones.
JehovahShalom
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It has to go to 16, because the logo would be so awesome.
See how the I and the G are a lot like a 1 and a 6? New logo: The B16 TEN.
I just had this revelation last night--sorry if somebody already posted something like this.
I like it!
If the Big Ten adds schools from two states who are not part of the conference, that would make 10 states, thus the Big 10 name would still fit. Most likely candidates to choose from from are Nebraska, Missouri, Rutgers(NJ). Then adding Notre Dame or Pittsburgh would not add any additional states. Add all five and the logo could stay the exact same with the hidden 11 in the logo.
thejumper5
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So are some of my thoughts (and this has been my #1 idea for awhile now, though there is probably about a 0.1% chance it happens):
1. If the Big Ten adds Notre Dame and stops, it fails to accomplish its goal of spreading the conference footprint to the sunnier parts of the USA.
2. It is clear from what I read that academics are just as important than athletics to the B10, if not more so.
3. By Notre Dame, the B10 would be demonstrating that it is okay with adding another smallish, private school.
4. Geographic continuity is important, even if it isn't stated.
5. The B10 may be considering a 4x4 quad system.
6. The SEC may poach Virginia Tech or others, so the ACC as it now looks may be in trouble.
7. Adding Notre Dame and 4 ACC schools could be a real possibility. The 4 ACC schools could be an entire quad, so current B10 schools wouldn't have to be broken up as much.
8. My choice for the 4 ACC schools would be Maryland, Virginia (two large states, plus the DC market, quality academics and sports), North Carolina, and Duke. In this scenario, the only thing lacking is consistent top-15 caliber football, but those schools are very good at a lot of other sports, so that may make up for their lack of power in football. It adds what is academically the best large private school in the South to the best large private school in the Midwest and best Catholic school (academically) in America. It spreads the conference out without spreading the conference thin, and it improves the conference dramatically in M&W basketball and baseball, the three most prominent NCAA sports after football. I know this is a major long-shot (almost laughably so), but I think it would be an ideal situation.
1. If the Big Ten adds Notre Dame and stops, it fails to accomplish its goal of spreading the conference footprint to the sunnier parts of the USA.
2. It is clear from what I read that academics are just as important than athletics to the B10, if not more so.
3. By Notre Dame, the B10 would be demonstrating that it is okay with adding another smallish, private school.
4. Geographic continuity is important, even if it isn't stated.
5. The B10 may be considering a 4x4 quad system.
6. The SEC may poach Virginia Tech or others, so the ACC as it now looks may be in trouble.
7. Adding Notre Dame and 4 ACC schools could be a real possibility. The 4 ACC schools could be an entire quad, so current B10 schools wouldn't have to be broken up as much.
8. My choice for the 4 ACC schools would be Maryland, Virginia (two large states, plus the DC market, quality academics and sports), North Carolina, and Duke. In this scenario, the only thing lacking is consistent top-15 caliber football, but those schools are very good at a lot of other sports, so that may make up for their lack of power in football. It adds what is academically the best large private school in the South to the best large private school in the Midwest and best Catholic school (academically) in America. It spreads the conference out without spreading the conference thin, and it improves the conference dramatically in M&W basketball and baseball, the three most prominent NCAA sports after football. I know this is a major long-shot (almost laughably so), but I think it would be an ideal situation.
FromFry2Ferentz
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This is the only Big10 expansion scenario that I am in favor of.
bws258
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my order of preference:
1) stay at 11, go to 13-game schedule and play a full 10-game round-robin conference schedule
2) add Notre Dame and stop at 12 schools ... split conference into North & South divisions
3) add five to get to 16 schools ... choose from: Connecticut, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Virginia
4) same as #3 but lower standards to consider: Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
1) stay at 11, go to 13-game schedule and play a full 10-game round-robin conference schedule
2) add Notre Dame and stop at 12 schools ... split conference into North & South divisions
3) add five to get to 16 schools ... choose from: Connecticut, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Rutgers, Virginia
4) same as #3 but lower standards to consider: Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
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JonDMiller
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Umm..NBC has given them their own television contract. I guess I'd take that as TV people believing they have a national appeal.
JonDMiller
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I agree with the latter in the event ND turns down what I think is being offered to them, and that is Big Ten + ND and stop. If they turn it down, then Nebraska and Mizzou come in, and perhaps there is still a slot for them as the 16th member..or maybe not
troy
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I still don't see how Big Ten can pass-up Nebraska. Texas knows how important Nebraska is. They have 5 national championships and 3 Heisman Trophy winners. Heck, kick out Northwestern if you need to. They can't compete in anything.
JehovahShalom
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So... is ND on the clock then (for the 12 teams option)?.. with the Big12 implosion and Nebby-Mizzu deadline looming?
I can't think the Big10 wants to risk letting those 2 get away while they wait for ND to make a decision.
Billso
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It is the Big 10 that forced the Pac 10's hand. You can be sure this possibility was anticipated, and it probably helps Delaney for someone else to tip the first domino.
Delaney and Fox are playing 3D chess while everyone else plays checkers.
National appeal is different than basic cable customers. The reason ND is a viable (and this is more and more up for debate) national broadcast television draw is that their fans are spread out.
However, when you translate this to subscription TV, you consider your clientele more carefully. That is why the BTN is on basic cable in the states where there is a B10 university. The cable companies know the demand in that limited area will be high enough to pay basic cable rights. It is about narrow-casting in a limited regional space. You need a high enough concentration of viewers and others interested.
With national broadcast TV you are not looking at narrow-casting, you are looking at "broad" casting. That is why ND seems a viable national option, because their fans are so dispersed. However, when you translate this to cable, ND looks like a premium subscription, because their fans are so committed and so dispersed.
All of this being said, ND's/NBC's ratings have been more off than on for a while.
