Big Ten Hindsight

[longtimer]

So are you good with Big Ten decision not to play until late October? Seems that teams playing now are not having big problems. Haven't heard much about allowing reduced crowds. All in all seems like maybe they made a good call to play?
I don't see any less risk with the Big Ten playing later and maybe as Pandemic worsens a greater risk? Plus playing Wisconsin in the middle of December in who knows what winter weather could be a bad way to end the year

 

[uihawk82]

At the time they made the 2nd decision to play they had to give the teams a month or so to work back into shape and practice. As far as Covid it is looking like states of Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Indiana, and Ohio are having increasing numbers of cases and quite big increases. With flu maybe getting worse in Nov and Dec it could be iffy.

A lot of the success or failure will be determined if the players and staff can stay in their 'bubble' and take the right precautions. I cant even remember if the U of I is having in person classes anymore or not???

 

[tailgater371]

No. They should have started as planned so they had room to move some games if needed. Nothing has changed.

 

[guffus]

From a health perspective, it probably would have been best to cancel the 2020 season entirely and come back and play in fall of 2021.

With that said, if the only 2 choices were to start this year on either Sep 12 or to start this year on Oct 24, then they should have started on Sep 12.

This would have provided more flexibility to schedule and make up games, and more opportunity to play when the weather is nice and before flu season starts.

 

[Robowe]

 

[HaydenHawk56]

We should have stayed cancelled imho. Going back on their decision (despite whatever fancy testing they are touting) is putting money over ultimate player safety. Playing in ice-cold temps in near empty stadiums to end the year while flu season is kicking in outta be something.

 

[Stanzi]

We should have stayed cancelled imho. Going back on their decision (despite whatever fancy testing they are touting) is putting money over ultimate player safety. Playing in ice-cold temps in near empty stadiums to end the year while flu season is kicking in outta be something.

I hear what you're saying but they won't be playing much later than normal. Instead of the end of November they'll play until early to mid December. Our game against Wisconsin on 12/12 is a home game so I wonder if that could be played in the UNI Dome if needed.

 

[Glass1/2fullguy]

We should have stayed cancelled imho. Going back on their decision (despite whatever fancy testing they are touting) is putting money over ultimate player safety. Playing in ice-cold temps in near empty stadiums to end the year while flu season is kicking in outta be something.

I’m so sick of hearing people talk about “player safety”. This virus has proven to have hardly any affect on young people. Was going back on their decision to cancel the season about money, hell yes it was, but let’s move past the whole “player safety” take. Playing the game of football in itself puts players at greater risk of being hospitalized than does this virus.

 

[Fryowa]

I’m so sick of hearing people talk about “player safety”. This virus has proven to have hardly any affect on young people. Was going back on their decision to cancel the season about money, hell yes it was, but let’s move past the whole “player safety” take. Playing the game of football in itself puts players at greater risk of being hospitalized than does this virus.

You really want to start another covid is/isn't dangerous thread?

 

[Glass1/2fullguy]

You really want to start another covid is/isn't dangerous thread?

To the question poised in the OP, i'm only good w/ the B10 decision to play football in Oct. because they at least made the decision to play. Having no bye weeks for potential canceled games could end up causing scheduling problems but only time will tell. What the B10 came up w/ is probably the best we could have asked for after making the decision to cancel. I'm hopeful some size of a crowd ends up being allowed by the end of the season.

There is no need to start a "covid is/isn't dangerout thread" but we also don't need to continue to bring up "player safety" when it comes to the virus.

 

[Fryowa]

There is no need to start a "covid is/isn't dangerout thread" but we also don't need to continue to bring up "player safety" when it comes to the virus.

I may not be intentional, but you just spoke out of both sides of your mouth.

First you said there doesn’t need to be any discussion of whether covid is or is not dangerous, and then one sentence later you argued that covid isn’t dangerous.

Just by saying that, you’re inviting debate on a topic you said doesn’t need to be discussed. Can’t have it both ways.

 

[Robowe]

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

I’m so sick of hearing people talk about “player safety”. This virus has proven to have hardly any affect on young people. Was going back on their decision to cancel the season about money, hell yes it was, but let’s move past the whole “player safety” take. Playing the game of football in itself puts players at greater risk of being hospitalized than does this virus.

Yeah...but it has a greater toll on large humans...and there is still a ton of research being done on what it does to the heart...even if your symptoms are mild. Last time I checked there are a good number of large humans playing football. That's why the Big Ten was cautious. One death would be too many because of football.

 

[Glass1/2fullguy]

I may not be intentional, but you just spoke out of both sides of your mouth.

First you said there doesn’t need to be any discussion of whether covid is or is not dangerous, and then one sentence later you argued that covid isn’t dangerous.

Just by saying that, you’re inviting debate on a topic you said doesn’t need to be discussed. Can’t have it both ways.

I agree w/ you that me making the statement is me inviting other to debate the topic. So my bad. You need to not put words in my mouth however. I never used the word dangerous yet you used that word in both your comments. So then i poise the question to you, what is your definition of dangerous since that is the word you chose?

 

[Glass1/2fullguy]

Yeah...but it has a greater toll on large humans...and there is still a ton of research being done on what it does to the heart...even if your symptoms are mild. Last time I checked there are a good number of large humans playing football. That's why the Big Ten was cautious. One death would be too many because of football.

So how many deaths is too many when it comes to football and CTE? Isn't one too many?

 

[Fryowa]

I agree w/ you that me making the statement is me inviting other to debate the topic. So my bad. You need to not put words in my mouth however. I never used the word dangerous yet you used that word in both your comments. So then i poise the question to you, what is your definition of dangerous since that is the word you chose?

If something is a “player safety” issue, it’s dangerous to players. Your assertion that covid isn’t a safety issue implies that you don’t think it’s dangerous.

Look, we can play a semantics game for hours if you want, but the point stands.

Don’t say we don’t need to talk about whether covid is a “safety issue” and then tell people it isn’t. That’s the equivalent to saying, “that’s a pointless argument, but I’m right.”

 

[HuckFinn]

I’m so sick of hearing people talk about “player safety”. This virus has proven to have hardly any affect on young people. Was going back on their decision to cancel the season about money, hell yes it was, but let’s move past the whole “player safety” take. Playing the game of football in itself puts players at greater risk of being hospitalized than does this virus.

Please enlighten me on future consequences for young people who are infected. My grandson would like to hear your expertise. Thanks.

 

[thetrza]

I don't have a problem with the conference being cautious or waiting until after other conferences had already started.

 

[HaydenHawk56]

I’m so sick of hearing people talk about “player safety”. This virus has proven to have hardly any affect on young people. Was going back on their decision to cancel the season about money, hell yes it was, but let’s move past the whole “player safety” take. Playing the game of football in itself puts players at greater risk of being hospitalized than does this virus.

Oh man, tell that to the families of young people who have died.

 

[tailgater371]

Yeah...but it has a greater toll on large humans...and there is still a ton of research being done on what it does to the heart...even if your symptoms are mild. Last time I checked there are a good number of large humans playing football. That's why the Big Ten was cautious. One death would be too many because of football.

if not playing football eliminated the chance of getting C19 I doubt anyone would argue against not playing. But that's not the case, and a stronger one can be made not playing actually increases it because the motivation to isolate is gone.