Big Ten divisions...looks like my prediction wasn't so wild after all.

On another note, what do you think of what Tuberville said. You know he isn't the only one in the conference with that thought. I would even venture to say that the folks up in Ames are thinking the same thing, but wouldn't dare go on record with that for obvious reasons.
 
Yeah, it's wild and won't happen. For this simple reason, and I stopped reading the rest of his item after reading this:

The key to any lineup, though, is that Ohio State and Michigan play in different divisions. That allows for the possibility of two Buckeyes-Wolverines games in any given season.

Folks, that is just not going to happen.
 
JonDMiller said:
Yeah, it's wild and won't happen. For this simple reason, and I stopped reading the rest of his item after reading this:

The key to any lineup, though, is that Ohio State and Michigan play in different divisions. That allows for the possibility of two Buckeyes-Wolverines games in any given season.

Folks, that is just not going to happen.
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Prett much what I was going to say, but you beat me to it. Besides, Teddy Greenstein and Stewart Mandel disagree with Mesa anyway.

Greenstein: Making sense of Big Ten divisions - Chicago Breaking Sports
 
Mesa, Dennis Dodd is a tool, and his suggestion, like yours, will be wrong. Any plan that tries to put Ohio State and Michigan in different divisions is doomed from the start.

It won't happen.
 
Dodds is generally wrong.

I don't see UM-OSU in different divisions.

I don't see 4 of the top 6 football programs in the same division.
 
I agree, Michigan and Ohio St. would never agree to a situation where they would have to potentially face each other twice in one year. Never!
 
Dodd is a CBS guy. ''The Game'' is the most valuable property in college football,and it is on ABC. So, after conceding the obvious, Dodd procedes to conclude the Big Ten should screw up the most valuable property in college football by playing it in October,and then maybe again in December? What if Michigan does not win their division for ten years? ''The Game'' would cease to exist,and CBS would be pleased...Delaney is way too smart to let that happen. Like Delaney and the Big Ten TV partners ABC/ESPN would take advice from a CBS/SEC tool on how to run their league...LOL.
 
JonDMiller said:
Yeah, it's wild and won't happen. For this simple reason, and I stopped reading the rest of his item after reading this:

The key to any lineup, though, is that Ohio State and Michigan play in different divisions. That allows for the possibility of two Buckeyes-Wolverines games in any given season.

Folks, that is just not going to happen.
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Not in this lifetime.
 
PatrickAdamovicz said:
On another note, what do you think of what Tuberville said. You know he isn't the only one in the conference with that thought. I would even venture to say that the folks up in Ames are thinking the same thing, but wouldn't dare go on record with that for obvious reasons.
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Tommy Tuberville isn't afraid to say what everyone else is thinking. That conference isn't long for this world.
 
There are three (3) competitive balances in this football division debate. Competitive balance of the divisions (1) and competitive balance within each division (2). Dodd's split fails both tests. The West would be inherently more difficult.
 
Not worried about the Big Twelve...nobody has any real incentive to leave at this point. Texas and its cabal have what they want...and the rest will not find a better monetary deal than they have now with the Big Twelve.

As for divisions, again, its not about what will happen...as it is about what should happen. There SHOULD be competitively balanced divisions. There SHOULD be a chance for MU and OSU to play for the championship. There SHOULD be no way in which a team like PSU jumps cross country to be in a division with Iowa.

These are all "shoulds"...what WILL happen is anyone's guess. I suppose its just as likely that something ridiculous....such as the Big 3 (MU, OSU, PSU) being in one division OR Penn State being in a division with the westernmost schools....will happen. But Dodd's scenario would be the most rational one in terms of competitive balance, preservation of rivalries, and regional integrity. Unfortunately, rational does not always win out.
 
Mesaclone said:
Not worried about the Big Twelve...nobody has any real incentive to leave at this point. Texas and its cabal have what they want...and the rest will not find a better monetary deal than they have now with the Big Twelve.

As for divisions, again, its not about what will happen...as it is about what should happen. There SHOULD be competitively balanced divisions. There SHOULD be a chance for MU and OSU to play for the championship. There SHOULD be no way in which a team like PSU jumps cross country to be in a division with Iowa.

These are all "shoulds"...what WILL happen is anyone's guess. I suppose its just as likely that something ridiculous....such as the Big 3 (MU, OSU, PSU) being in one division OR Penn State being in a division with the westernmost schools....will happen. But Dodd's scenario would be the most rational one in terms of competitive balance, preservation of rivalries, and regional integrity. Unfortunately, rational does not always win out.
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Why not? They already make trips to west schools every year already. I posted this in a thread a while back:

PSU is already making trips to the western schools in the Big Ten as it is, so how would the trips to Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota be any more inconvenient? At most, there would be five division games (two or three in Happy Valley anyway), which means that the remaining three or four conference games would be against eastern teams.

In 2008, PSU made road trips to both Iowa and Wisconsin. In 2010, PSU will make road trips to both Minnesota and Iowa. It is unlikely that the Big Ten would make it so PSU has to go to Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, and Wisconsin all in the same year. At most, it's probably two of the four (Wisconsin would probably be in the eastern division if PSU comes over to the western side).

When you break it down, the geographic concerns become moot, IMO.
 
Because, cuinkirk, one of the stated goals of the conference's divisional alignment is to maintain a semblance of regional integrity. That goal was tertiary to competitiveness...and Dodd's plan also provides a better setup in that regard.
 
Mesaclone said:
Because, cuinkirk, one of the stated goals of the conference's divisional alignment is to maintain a semblance of regional integrity. That goal was tertiary to competitiveness...and Dodd's plan also provides a better setup in that regard.
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I don't remember Delaney saying that when he was in Lincoln, maybe you could find that quote. Besides, like cuiinkk said (hope I spelled that right) Penn State has to fly to all of their road games anyway, and Lincoln can't be much further west by plane than Cedar Rapids is. Nebrasaka will be in the same boat, as they'll likely be flying to all of their roadies as well.
 
JonDMiller said:
Yeah, it's wild and won't happen. For this simple reason, and I stopped reading the rest of his item after reading this:

The key to any lineup, though, is that Ohio State and Michigan play in different divisions. That allows for the possibility of two Buckeyes-Wolverines games in any given season.

Folks, that is just not going to happen.
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I agree.

Plus, you look at this guy's divisions....they are NOT competetively balanced.
 
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